Is Pacquiao the greatest?
A "human typhoon" is how one commentator described Manny Pacquiao's demolition of former welterweight champion Miguel Cotto in Las Vegas on Saturday, where, akin to the seasonal storms that have battered his Philippines' homeland recently, the Pac-man rained down powerful punches on his Puerto Rican opponent in a manner that left devastation in the ring.
Pacquiao has long been revered for his speed, stamina and range of hits, but under the lights of the MGM Grand Garden Arena, the man from Kibawe entered the pantheon of greats with his WBO-title victory.
The win was impressive for a number of reasons. Firstly, Pacquiao was fighting at welterweight for only the second time in his career. There are always doubts whether the strength to win can be maintained when a fighter moves up the weight divisions, so it was remarkable that a man who has gone from super featherweight to welterweight in two years - and who has now fought at nine different weight divisions having started as a light-flyweight - not only had the harder punches, but absorbed the onslaught of a bigger man so easily.
There have been greats who have been multi-weight champions before too (Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar De La Hoya, Thomas Hearns and Floyd Mayweather), but Pacquiao now has seven world titles to his name - if IBO and Ring magazine belts are included - a mark that beats the record of six set by De La Hoya.
The 30-year-old, who was born in poverty, has also captured his glory the hard way. The twelfth-round stoppage against Cotto gave the world's best pound-for-pound boxer a career record of 50 wins, three defeats and two draws - 55 fights in total. Compare this number of grueling bouts to Mayweather's 40 undefeated, De La Hoya's 45 career fights, Joe Frazier's 37 bouts, Lennox Lewis's 44 or Leonard's 40.
Not only has Pacquiao fought and beaten the best around - including Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez and ending De La Hoya's career - he has endured a greater number of fights than many of his peers.
Bob Arum, a man who has managed some of the biggest names in boxing over the last forty years told reporters: "I've promoted Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, and Manny Pacquiao is the best fighter I have ever seen."
A sentiment that Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach agreed with: "Compared to all those names, he's as good as any of them. He's the greatest fighter of his era, for sure. 100 percent."
Like Ali, Pacquiao too has a popularity that transcends his sport. His story of rags to riches has captured the imagination of a legion of fans around the world, he was the first Filipino athlete to appear on a postage stamp and was named as one of the world's most influential people of 2009 by Time Magazine. He also has a keen interest in politics, a passion that should see him run successfully for congress in the Philippines in 2010. If the fight with Floyd Mayweather happens it is expected to be the highest grossing of all-time.
The title of "great" is often used cheaply, but with Pacquiao it is richly deserved.
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I was never much interested in boxing until I saw this man fight. He is a treat to watch and a humble man. He doesn't talk much and his boxing gloves do..! Keep it up man...!
I think he's really GREAT!...after defeating most of great boxer, there's no doubt that he'll be one of Philippines' Pride when it comes to Boxing. So THUMBS UP 4 U, PAC-MAN!
frm, BENI,.Lipa, Batangas
It hasn't been much excitement in boxing since Tyson early years.
Great piece on pacquiao. He's the man!
Would love to see him knock down floyd money mayweather
He is the most humble man.you don't find much people who are successful humble.Usually they think they are untouchable.Its so pathetic!.Those people should learned from Pacman!
He truly is one of all time's greatest. His level transcends those of others because of his humility, God-loving attitude and a heartwarming personality. He does not say unpleasant words for the vanquished ones which is something rare. If tennis has its Federer and golf has its Tiger, then boxing is now Pacquiao.
I THINK HE S RELLY GOOD BOXER AND IS GOING TO BE THE TITO
Whether he is the greatest ever ever, is an academic question because there really is no way anybody would ever establish that to the satisfaction of all. What is undeniable however is that Pacquiao is the greatest of HIS time. I'll go as far as saying that this should stand, win or lose against Floyd.
By the way, I cannot pick anyone in that fight with Floyd, because I was always a Floyd fan for a long time, before I was won over by Pacquiao when he destroyed my South African countryman, world champion Lehlohonolo Ledwaba as a late replacement challenger. I was firmly entrenched when Pacquiao went on to annihilate Barrera. Plus, I never thought Pacquiao would fight beyond Featherweight (I doubt anyone saw that coming), let alone destroying at least 5 first-ballot Hall of Fame legends at Welterweight. So it never appeared that his path and Floyd's would cross.
Perhaps, it is exactly because Pacquiao won fights he had no business winning, that makes him special. And he not only won, but he brutalized the big and excellent A+ fighters who were supposed to be more skilled and bigger on paper.
So, who knows if Pacquiao is the greatest ever or not. To this day, it is still sufficiently arguable if Ali is the greatest over, say, a Sugar Ray Robinson. So, is Pacquiao worthy company for these guys ? Yes. Better than all of them ? A stretch perhaps. Is he then the greatest now and in the last 15 or so years ? Decisively, I think. If we ask the question 5 years later, the verdict may be more conclusive.
pacquiao showed what every champion in any sport should be...humble in victory.
he's the best boxer we've ever known!!!!
congratz manny!!!!
filipinos love u!!!
we are so proud of you!!!
see u in gensan!!!
Pacman is the greatest boxer today, no doubt about it. He deserves all the admiration and respect. He is the Philippines true hero in the hearts and minds of all Filipinos.
u man......u're so GREAT and wer poud of u......we alll filipinos.... 2 hands salute job wel done
Pacquiao is very unique not only as a boxer but as a person bec. of his humility and always put God first and his fellow filipinos. And most of all his story is quite a fairy tale From rags to Riches until he became a Boxing Icon,He is idolized and adored in the philippines and see him as the Great Hope of the country.. Mabuhay Manny !
Robert Matias,
Gapan Phillipines
"PacMan is not human" as my friend Khabane described it!
Amazing heart in that man!
Humility is the greatest virtue in the Kingdom and yes it's rare for the great man of power to be so humble.. A Man that honors God and exhibit God's attributes will indeed be honored.. Thanks Manny for waving not only Philippine flag but also in honoring God and teaching thw rold how to be the greatest . You are great not only in your punches but great because you are great in your attitude.. Proud to be Pinoy
I am a female and not much interested in boxing but become interested because of Manny Pacquiao. He has great skill, he's also great because of his attitude, generosity and compassion. I also like his love for his country.
Pacquiao rules!!!!!!!!!!
MANNY IS ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO MY COUNTRY 🙂
He is humble and very close to Heavenly Father before the fight he kneel and ask heavenly father to win and kneel again after he wins thanking him, I think he is paying his tithing that is why he got his bleessing pouring from heaven
truly you will never hear him saying bad things about his opponents...
Such a great boxer, great attitude. I'm looking forward to him beating Mayweather.
thanks for this nice piece about pacquiao.......and thanks putuma (-:...now i know our hero is known all over the world....
Pacman you're the very best fighter ever! While Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the most fighter in TALK ever.....
He is just amazing. With his left punch really knock down. Great boxer of all time.
HEJA PACMAN!!!!!
Vi älskar dig här i sverige!
We love you here in Sweden!
I'm a Pacman fan ever since, I always prayed for Manny months before his every fight, so he will always glorify God's name, I pray for the whole Pacman team, I prayed for their game plan, strategies, speed skill, protection. Glory to God in the highest!!!!!I will always be your PRAYER WARRIOR as long as you remain humble and glorify God.
You are the most admiring person today, I pray that no one...no one here on earth will try to destruct you in any way....Lord.....will bless you always.....MANNY PACQUIAO....you are the biggest gift for the PILIPINOS.....we love you.
NOBODY in the History of Boxing gets BETTER as they get BIGGER, PACQUIAO defies this common sense as he started being Champion of the Super Featherweight to Welterweight. And NOBODY yet get 7-title in multi-weight division but only MANNY PACQUIAO......Lets accept it people and accept the FACTS, PACQUIAO IS THE GREATEST BOXER OF THIS TIME. Yah better watch out Mayweather ur next.
I'm so proud of you MANNY!!! You give pride to our country and all the Filipinos in the world. Just hope those crappy politicians will not take advantage of you. All your achievements and your blessings, you worked hard for it – literally with SWEAT and BLOOD. You deserve it all! God bless you and your family!
Floyd Maychicken was hiding satuday night, watching the fight while peeking through his closet door!
Pacquiao in my opinion is the greatest bower ever!
p a c m a n k n o w s
Pacman is the greatest,. He is such a symbol for all Filipino's to work hard and triumph against greater odds. DONT VOTE PACQUIAO FOR CONGRESS HE'LL BE A DISTATER. Keep him in the ring, where he belongs.
I thank God that I had witnessed they consider greats in their chosen feilds: Pacquiao=boxing; Jordan=Basketball; Tiger Woods=Golf; Fedderer=Tennis;Efren Bata Reyes=Billiards; Paeng Nepomuceno=Bowling and Gretzky=Hockey
And humble enough. Long Live! ...........my heroes
jov pasajol
manila, phils.
I agree. He is the Best of all time. Rocky Marciano retired without a single loss, but he didn't change categories, which is very, very hard to do.
PACMAN is the greatest fighter of his time and he had proved it (cotto, hatton, dela hoya, marquez, morales, barera, diaz, etc.)... maybe mayweather wanted to be in the master's list..
I have never watched boxing until I accidentally read ( while I was surfing the net) about this great Filipino boxer who was to about to fight Hatton. I became curious that I watched their fight at youtube.com. That is how I came to admire this great fellow! When I read about his next fight I had to see it.
With all due respect to Miguel Cotto, he did well too, but thanks to Manny Pacquiao for keeping the World Titel! A Filipino Pride indeed!
Am I the only one out there who realizes that mayweather is going to absolutley destroy manny when they fight?
Definitely the best in boxing in this era, despite Mayweather's undefeated record, because of the quality of the opponents and the frequency of fights. But the best of all-time is an arguable statement. I seem to recall a similar piece and description when Chavez was at 90+ wins and undefeated. If he would have retired, he would have had the best record ever. He had multiple belts and fought in multiple weight classes also. But fighting past his time killed his claim, as did Ali. There so many arguments for Hagler also. He lost his belts to Sugar Ray in a fight where Sugar Ray danced but did not fight. To be the champ you have to beat the champ was not in effect that night and Hagler never fought again.Only time will tell if Pac-Man is the greatest of all time but one thing is certain: in a sport so riddled with corruption and public mistrust, he seems to be saving boxing single-handedly; and that would truly be his greatest achievement and deserving of the claim "Best of All-Time".
floyd mayweather is gonna beat pacman and take his title
Go Pacman!
I can't wait for Pacquaio to demolish money mayweather, that will be a treat
pacman the greatest figter of all time, but still humble.
Proud to be Filipino!
Excellent
Compassionate
Hardworking
People!
And we play fair too!!!! Less talk, more punches!!
Manny is really great!!!
Would you believe that foreigner- priest' kidnappers in Phils released the guy so that they can view the boxing bout in TV without having to think of the pries, with the military pursuing them?
Also, bettors for Pacquiao were refunded of their bets because nobody bet on Cotto? Life and deeds stopped to give way for the fight..
stay out of politics!!!! it will be one of your worst knockouts
you forget George Armstrong the only man to hold 3 world titles at the
same time with full weight divisions the equivelant of 10 divisions
today from light to middleweight.
Pacquiao is already the Greatest for what he has done for himself and his country. Truly a fine example of the Filipino People of whom I have the highest respect. God Bless Manny and keep him safe always.
I saw this guy once and I was impressed by the speed and power.......
INBORN SPEED – Pacquiao's speed is inborn. Even before it was tapped, harnessed, refined and developed, it was always there. It's a God-given gift. Look at the way he destroyed his early opponents.
That's why his speed is so natural. That's why nobody till now can equal or match with it toe to toe. It goes with him in whatever weight divisions he ventures. Once refined and greatly developed, it is no wonder he can capture as many weight division titles he desires.
GUIDED STRENGTH – Pacquiao's strength though needed to be molded, guided, and built. This is the reason why most critics doubt if he can ever persevere in a fight amongst stronger and harder-hitting opponents.
OBSESSION TO IMPROVE – But perhaps, the greatest asset of Pacquiao is his willingness and tenacity to improve and become a better fighter. The guy does not just want to become great, he wants to become the greatest; not just better, he wants to be the best; not just talented, but a perfect fighting machine; not just strong, but powerful. Given the tenacity and discipline to become stronger and faster, Pacquiao has truly evolved. And by the nature of the guy, he will undoubtedly conquer more world titles if he so desires, save only if he is already limited by the super difference in the size and weight of his opponent.
Manny, you don't need to fight floyd, he is not worth it. Mayweather is just like politics.. dirty politics. You are a good person, stay as you are. Congratulations!
Manny Money Maywether is the king of the Pac(k). The lion of the ring and the conquerer of the conqueror.
Pac is no doubt a brave and talented fighter but noy yet in the class of the handsome boy Money MM
Pac-Man ur amazing. Mayweather is nonsense like what is coming out from her mouth.
Manny Pacquiao is a very impressive boxer!!!
Watching him as he fights, even when he was not this famous before, puts "PASSION" into Boxing.
This man climbed up the sports ladder through BOXING!!! Fighting his way to the top with Humility and Discipline.
I wish PACMAN was a Japanese!!! It would be an honor!!!
Shame to his old trainor, w/c unfortunately is a Japanese.
If Pacquiao is pushed into fighting Mayweather I urge Pacquiao's handlers to insist that Pacquiao gets 70% of the total purse. Mayweather may be undefeated but he hang up his gloves for some time while Pacquiao worked his butt to reach where he is now. Mayweather should realize that you can't rest on your laurels and expect people to still believe you're invincible. That's not the way things work. And scanning Mayweather's face and pronouncements, I think he's really scared of the Pacman. So if ever these two meet in the ring I expect Pacquiao to ram his "National Fist" down Mayweather's throat.
Manny is an awesome fighter, truly increadible! I did feel all along Cotto would not be able to live with him once he started putting together those combos and the angles; and that's what happened.
On the subject of Mayweather (they will all find a way eventually to make this fight simply because of the potential numbers – the money, would be too good to pass up cos of egos and sharing formulas), i think people should be a tad cautious. Dude is immensely talented, and yes manny would give him a real fight, i also feel styles make fights and he's capable of defeating manny.
Let me put it this way, im not so sure Manny will win (and deliver a beating the way he has done to DLH, Hatton & now Cotto). Reason is Mayweather is simply something different. I can understand why fight fans dont really like him; he performs a shut out against opponents making them look so bad, the fights become one sided and boring with his utra defensive skills and set-up.
He doesnt go all-out action like Manny, but his style, possibly boring to watch to most, is pure science – Hit and not get hit, and he's the best at it. see how bad & innefective he made Juan Manuel Marquez look. I hear you say, but Manny fights at a ferocious pace. True, but a counter puncher (and a very accurate one) gets you thinking and reluctant to steam on like that once he has you figured out and can time you coming in.
Now, Marquez is nowhere near as good a counter punching sharpshooter as Floyd, yet see how he caused Manny so many problems. Fact is he probably did win their last fight.
Manny Vs Floyd? I dont know, but i think id pick the ultra defensive, slick, accurate and very intelligent (at figuring out then breaking down his opponent systematically) counter puncher.
Please never leave out Henry Armstrong when discussing holding titles.
This man fought when there were only 8 weight classes and was champion of Four of them...and fought to a draw for a fifth belt.
Please .....do not include Muhammad Ali..when discussing Manny's greatness.......He is not even close to Muhammad Ali...in his prime..come on.
Thanks for listening
Ted
Ad majorem Dei Gloriam ( To God be the Glory)!
I'm really proud of you, Manny!
marvien of Sta. Cruz, Laguna, Philippines!
Hey guys, a boxing writer chickens out on his promise to quit his writing job if Pacquaio defeats Cotto.
To have a great laugh, please visit;
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2009/11/pacquiaos-weight-demands-defeat-cotto/
The greatest of all-time? Not even close. There is no mention of Salvador Sanchez who held multiple titles in feather and light weight, never lost a fight and had one draw. Sanchez was phenomenal, relentless and the best conditioned fighter ever who beat the best including champions and champions to be.
GOD Bless you manny & ur family...u will always be an inspiration to all Filipinos around the world.... I admired ur heart & faith. The most is ur being a family loving man....
To Floyd Money Weather .... yeah boy !!!! used your big mouth to sign the offer ????.... or else do u have any choices ????>>> ahhh ... are you ready to rumble ??? hey boy !!!! these are only questions????
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas !!!!
God bless you Manny! I am sure you will agree that GOD gives each of us unique gifts that we should utilize at the right time. Let me share with you a verse in the Bible,
Ecclesiastes 3:1 NASB " There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven"
Please do not enter politics until you retire from boxing. You are indeed the Philippines pride! You will serve GOD and your country more if you focus all your energies in boxing for the time being.
We will join your countrymen in praying that you continue to honor GOD first in all your accomplishments and that you remain humble at all times!
I like this guy,...I saw him once and was taken by his exceptional humility.God Bless Pac Man
Proudly Filipino!
God bless the Philippines!
I am not a boxing fan, but man, if Pacman fights, I become one. Bring the Pacman Money fight on!
i am a filipino and i am proud of what he has achieved so far and how he inspires a lot of his countrymen – that includes me.
but i hope the media (and that includes CNN) will stop or at least temper the effusive accolades they bestow him. He deserves credit, yes. But when a man begins to believe the hype surrounding him, it may have a most unfortunate effect.
At this time – sitting on top of the world – he is most vulnerable. With predators around him – politicians, entertainers, and a motley crew of hangers-on with hidden agendas – he can easily be distracted, misled and, ultimately, destroyed. For a man who has given our country so much hope and pride, that will be total waste.
"The Greatest?" We will know that only after he hangs up his gloves.
We are way too early to ask if he is the greatest ever!
Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Archie Moore, Harry Greb, Willy Pep
etc, etc, etc, we're all head and shoulders above him.
His singing is not too far off from being good. Knowing his boxing skills, a little more experience in singing and he could be the Michael Buble of the Philippines. Long live Pacman!
On March 13, 2010 Floyd Mayweather the true pound for pound king, will shock the world as he will destroy manny pacquiao!
Go Team mayweather!
mayweather will eat pacman alive in the ring and anyone who knows boxing agrees.
In fairness, Cotto did a heroic job standing 'til the end as a true champion.
I do think Manny is a terrific fighter and definitely a future Hall of Famer, but let's not get it twisted, Manny barely beat Marquez, who Floyd Mayweather devoured. And yes, Manny did a terrific job against Cotto, but Manny beating Floyd Mayweather; I will be so bold to say, I don't think there's even a remote possibility of that happening. Again, no disrespect to Manny and his talents, but I'm just being real.
to me there are three ingredients that made Manny successful. Prayers,
which is the most powerfull,dedication which must be strictly obeserved 100 percent all the time and guidance by the right people that has to be followed . more power to you....Manny
As a Filipino, i know nobody wants to see him in congress except himself and the local poLEECHticians who is ever persuading him to run so that they can piggy back on his popularity.If it was a nationwide election he wont win, but since it's local hopefully the local voters wont vote him.He is not meant for politics.
As for Mayweather, enough talk prepare, train and then box.I was wondering why he is bother about what people would say if he ever knockout Pacquiao and that he is in a no win situation even if he wins over Pacquiao, I guess the man has a very serious ego tripping issue or lack of self esteem.You are a boxer you fight to win and try to keep on winning then let the people or history judge you with regards to your accomplishments in boxing.
As for Pacquiao he needs to focus on boxing and boxing alone,the hardest fight in the ring is yet to come.I have to agree that he is one of the greatest boxer in history. And he was never quoted saying that even after winning 7 world weight division titles now that's a mark of a true champion – humility amidst the success.
– Koronadal City prays and support our living national hero!!
.........from the neighbors of Pacquiao..............
I like what they say about the next opponent of MP: Fight Juan Manuel Marquez, knock him out, then retire. MP do not have any business with Floyd, he'll just use MP to gain the money he badly needed to pay his debts. Beating JMM will cement all the doubts that you are the greatest. You beat the champ in Miguel Cotto, beating FMJ is unnecessary. He is also a weight cheater. Beware MP. I prefer MP vs JMM. Finish him off, shut hi mouth and do your job as a politician and better be good.
I like Pacquiao he is an excellent boxer, humble man, respectul athlete.
As far as his political career goes, I think that the corrupted political elites in phillipines only want to abuse his image and influence over people.
I don't think he's the greatest! But he probably thinks so. And he probably think that he can run for President of the Philippines now! If he does and win – heaven's forbid- that would be the end of my poor country!
I saw him fighting! It was so cool!!! Pacquiao just punched a player at the face and the player was unconscious!!My dad is a big fan of him.
Great fighter, and a great personality too. None of that flashy stuff you get from Mayweather, I hope Manny knocks him out!
Mayweather will be beat pacman. I understand all the philipino's being excited about having someone to cheer for from their 3rd world country, but Mayweather outclasses him in every way in the ring. Manny is a one dimensional fighter and Floyd will expose him in the ring and show the world why he is truly the best fighter of our generation. Can't wait for this fight. It'll be great to see how many people jump off the pacquiao bandwagon when Floyd shows the world what true greatness is.
Someone said for Manny to take a rematch with Marquez. For what? Lets face it, Marquez won that fight. Also, someone mentioned for him to retire, for what, he is still young in boxing age. Furthermore, there is still competition for him out there. He has to fight and beat both Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosely to convince me of this so-called "greatness" that people are bestowing upon him. And yes, I am a Mayweather fan; and to be fair in all of this, I would like to see Mayweather fight Shane Mosley because I truly believe this is the only boxer out there that will give him a challenge. Sure, as boxing fans we have our favorites and align our allegiance with whomever for various reasons, whether it be country, city, barrio or identity, but we all should have a common goal of wanting to see "boxers" matched with each other that challenges themselves, the sport and that term we call "greatness".
Eat'em up Pac. – Stay out of politics – it will be your worst beating, but if you do enter, bypass congress and run for President of the Philippines.
I love this Pac Man though he has one more man to beat and then retire and thats non other than Floyd Mayweather thats the game of our time . Give me the date and i will tell God to hold my days .
Odek Fred
Silverafricatours- Nairobi
Well I agree with Mayweather. Manny is a one dimensional boxer, if he means a willingness on Pacman's part to mix it up and fight relentlessly, instead of hit and run, like what Muhammad Ali used to do. This is why to this day I still consider Rocky Marciano the greatest of all boxers. Retiring undefeated, he made mince meat of all the great heavyweights of his time.
Manny never considered his self as "The Great Boxer".He is very
humble and very consistent of his ideals and beliefs when it comes
to fighting his opponents.
pacquiao do not just belong to us anymore....he now belongs to the world. lets quit flaunting what the whole world already know.
I am a Manny Pacquiao fan.
Before the Pacquiao-Cotto fight, I watched some Cotto videos on YouTube, and to tell you the truth, I was scared shitless for PacMan.
I saw the power in Cotto, and I said to myself, there's no way this guy can beat Pacman. Especially after I saw the HBO 24/7 episodes. I thought Manny was just too distracted and not ready. I was scared shitless for him.
Everytime Manny fights, I am scared shitless for him. I am scared for him and his family.
But man, once you see him fight, once he's in that ring. You know he's going to follow through. He's got heart. More heart than I can ever imagine.
I am ashamed that I lost faith, that I thought he couldn't beat the bigger guys. And so far, he's beaten a lot of bigger guys.
For those who still have doubts on him, watch his opponent's videos and then watch him beat that opponent. I'm telling you, if that doesn't make you a believer, then I don't know what will.
from zero to hero then from hero to Nero.. his the great boxer of all time
Are you kidding me? Pac is a great fighter, but he is a far cry from the greatest. His biggest weakness is his almost complete lack of defensive technique. The guy is 100% offense. He can dominate with his strength, but when he meets a resilient opponent or one with superior defense he'll lose or draw just as he has done 5 times already in his career.
I am a Manny Pacquiao fan.
Before the Pacquiao-Cotto fight, I watched some Cotto videos on YouTube, and to tell you the truth, I was scared for PacMan.
I saw the power in Cotto, and I said to myself, there's no way Pacman can beat this guy. Especially after I saw the HBO 24/7 episodes. I thought Manny was just too distracted and not ready. I was scared for him.
Everytime Manny fights, I am scared for him. I am scared for him and his family.
But man, once you see him fight, once he's in that ring. You know he's going to follow through. He's got heart. More heart than I can ever imagine.
I am ashamed that I lost faith, that I thought he couldn't beat the bigger guys. And so far, he's beaten a lot of bigger guys.
For those who still have doubts on him, watch his opponent's videos and then watch him beat that opponent. I'm telling you, if that doesn't make you a believer, then I don't know what will.
He's already cemented in the Boxing Hall of Fame!!!! Nothing else to prove, but to quell all doubts he needs to fight Floyd Mayweather.
@Stephen, lack of defensive skills you say? have you forgotten that offense is the best defense? have you seen how he countered the punches of ricky in his last fight? that alone doing counter punching in that caliber is one of the best defensive strategies...
As a Puerto Rican I am sadden for Miguel Cotto, but you have to take your hat off to Manny Paquiao for an excellent performance last Saturday night. My congratulations to his team and particularly to Freddie Roach, you certainly are the best.
Manny Pacquiao is the Best as we speak. Miguel Cotto did his best. Miguel should seek retirement. Regardless of his merits, Cotto should look for his family and enterprises. In terms of Pacquiao , congratulations.
Manny is great but Mayweather is the Greatest!! Money is in his own capacity and i dont think Manny can stop his unbeaten run. Impossible!!! U cant compare Manny to Mayweather.
We are very prouf of you, Pacman. May we get through Floyd Mayweather humbly.
Thanks for making us, Filipinos, proud.
The title of "great" is often used cheaply, but with Pacquiao it is richly deserved.
Please folks, let's be REAL. JMM gave Manny all he could handle TWICE. Manny has been knocked down and knocked out!!! Mayweather, on the other-hand, is bigger, intellegent, and a "pure" boxer. Should Manny ever whip Floyd, it will ONLY be by happenstance. Floyd, is a gifted fighter, with a LOT of ring smarts and saavy.
I have never seen Manny this marked-up before Floyd is not ducking Manny at all. If so, why would Floyd have chosen JMM, as a tune-up? Floyd, was readying himself for Manny. Floyd knows eaxctly what he is doing. I believe Freddie Roach, wants Manny to whip Floyd so bad,he will probably retire if Manny does, but, Mayweather NEVER dissappoints.
Manny is excellent for the sport, BUT, Floyd brings flare and drama inside and outside the ring (24/7).,Floyd, reminds me of Ali, but more intellegent. Floyd believes, if he takes a puch, he sould also receive the money–Smart!!
I think Floyd knows– as a Black Man in America, he will always have to show-up! I do not like cursing that Floyd often does, but when you see the real Floyd, you will not find a more compassionate spiritual guy, who respects the sport and always show respect for his opponents afterward - no matter who. I have never seen Flod throw a dirty punch. I like Mayweather because I see the real Mayweather over the boxer. But, he will defeat Manny. No question about it and will show respect for Manny afterwards!!! Start 24/7 tomorrow!!!!
I am a fan of Manny. I never miss any of his fights.My blood pressure would soar to 100/95 every time I watch his fight because of excitement. He is truly the greatest! I am proud of my kababayan!Mabuhay si Manny! Mabuhay ang mga Pilipinos! God bless you and your family!
No doubt, now the Greatest Boxer ever known!!!
Stay being humble, and God fearing.
Mabuhay ka Manny PacMan!
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
I agree Mayweather and Pacquiao are definitely not in the same league – their nicknames says it all: MONEY & PRETTY BOY vs Fighting Pride of the Philippines & Mexicutioner (wiki). One describes himself in vain while the other is focus on boxing.
It is very interesting where values are placed in different cultures. I'd give you some words and you can figure out which boxer it is associated to:
– humility
– vanity
– trash talk
– respect
Mayweather says he is in a no-win situation if he fights Pacquiao. He should be confident to win against Manny. Instead, he already created an excuse in case he does lose. Coward.
Like us, he is humble as his Lord.
Pacman is definitely among the all-time greats. He is a God loving who cares much for his family. He is always humble. He is a very good model for any sportsperson.
Can't wait to see Floyd Mayweather Vs Pacquiao Match!
First off Manny has to be considering within the top 5 greatest of all time... you can never say who is the greatest it is a ridiculous statement comparing legends.
Second... I find the Mayweather camp to be laughable after the pathetic boxing display Floyd put on against Marquez. Did Floyd win and show he knows how to fight? Yes... but did he really fight Marquez and try to knock him out giving the people who paid to watch what ended up being one of the most boring fights I have seen in a decade.
Mayweather is only interested in two things... his cut of the profit and holding onto the illusion he is the best PFP fighter as well as his undefeated record. He is not interested in fighting real opponents and to say De La Hoya was in his prime when he fought Mayweather is a joke. To think it was a split decision is amazing and how he went 12 rounds with Hatton as well.
Who do I think would win when they fight I think it will be close, but I give the edge to Mayweather because he is willing to be a defensive boxer and Manny is more interested in being a offensive boxer.
In the end Mayweather needs / wants Manny as who else is he going to fight? He won't fight anyone in his own weight class... He can't fight someone else like Marquez as the PPV number won't be the same after that boring fight he put on. Manny is the champion and not Floyd... and Floyd's crazy 65% / 35% split demand is just insane as Manny doesn't need Floyd and if Manny shuts out Floyd then everyone will keep knocking Mayweahter.
I am not saying Mayweather is not an amazing fighter, but if you ask people who they would rather see fight I think the answer hands down is Manny Pacquiao as he actually fights and puts on a show. This is a KEY point in what makes a great fighter as well... Lennox Lewis was a great fighter but a BORING fighter! Mayweather has become a great SAFE fighter plain and he wants to live in the past. Look at Chavez JR on the undercard Saturday night he is 41-0 and he looked pathetic and has he faced any real challenges??? Saying you are undefeated and dodging real challenges doesn't make you great it only gives people the illusion you are great.
Pacman is the greatest boxer in his era..nothing compared to his achievement in terms of opponent that he beat for the last years that he is fighting, he is very humble,very entertaining fighter,he let his fist do the talking..he is a good example that nothing is imposible,,if you believe in your goal, if you work hard you can achieved and reached the summit of your dreams..long leave....The king of Prizefighting..LOL
I am a fan of the Greatest Fighter-Manny Pacquiao! I typed the wrong number above. My blood pressure would soar to 180/95 whenever I watch his fight because of excitement God bless you Manny!
Pacquiao is a good fighter for sure, but not the greatest. If he was truly the greatest, he would be undeafeted like Mayweather is. I respect Pacquiao, but he would have no chance against Mayweather.
Cool fight with cotto, UR GREAT! i salute u MANNY! looking forward on mayweather,,, i have 90% validation to say UR GREAT by beating DLH,HATTON,COTTO,,, beating MAYWEATHER is another thing, that's 100% to say UR GREAT! , surpassing all boxing legend, ali, sugar ray, etc... GOD BLESS MANNY!
Ever heard of Sugar ray Robinson? 150 pro fights? If that is a measure you are using to judge. Plus, he is good, but he is no Ali. Come on, man. Ali was 3 or 4 times the fighter he was. As far as Cotto being bigger, Ali Vs. Foreman. Remember that. Paq is a cool guy and all, and I love his humilty and spirit and the way he fights. But he is not the greatest. Even Freddie Roach wouldn't say that. And he knows. Anyway, Mayweather puts this question to rest shortly, folks.
The TRUTH is, Floyd Mayweather ducked COTTO in 2007-2008 and then announced his retirement, MOSLEY in 2007-present, and PACQUIAO – presently. HE ALSO ducked Margarito in 07'.
Listen to DJ Ra's conversation with Floyd on youtube. Look it up.
Many articles/sports commentators refer to Pacquiao as an athlete transcending his sport. He puts boxing in a positive light. He is not all about himself which is another "check" for his greatness.
yes, pacman is the best! and the only way to prove that he is the greatest is to fight against that floyd "loudmouth" mayweather. What pacman has that mayweather does not have is "TEAM PACQUIAO". TEAM PACQUIAO, work as a team, fight as a team and WIN as a team!!!! mayweathers camp just CHICKENS as a team! Hey Floyd, fight PACMAN! Don't be a coward! I know you are a big fan of PACQUIAO 'coz your sreen name is FLOYD "MANNY" MAYWEATHER JR!
Forget about the PACMAN being the greatest , He is quite simply the Savior of Boxing !!! Viva Pacman for making this sport exciting not like the Runners who claim to be the best but don't fight nobody
for the whole world to see the best of the best in boxing... it is super
and to be humble at the same time........... it's the greatest... ever
the greatest example to the whole world we can all share
I have watched boxing for a long time and I think you people are being ridiculous in saying Manny is one of the greatest of all-time. That is over kill. Let's see he beat Oscar hmmm..... old and dead in the water, Hatton (over rated big time), Cotto hmmm.... in my eyes lost his last fight and has never been the same after that beating he took. So let's not jump off a cliff here folks.
i always see Floyd Mayweather Jr. and his crazy dad running their mouths and boasting up their egos, now that they can have the chance to prove it they always make excuses and at the same time say Pacquiao beating him is impossible (from the lastest ESPN interview).
FLOYD JR., Enough Partying with Diddy and showing your Money. Start Training.
FLOYD SR., No one cares about you're opinion,
40-40, then give the rest to the winner. Quite a fair deal, right???
Fair share for "Manny" who's quite confident he will reign over Our "Manny".
Just a silent thought, written to be loud and read.
I love The PacMan BUTTTTTT.... Sorry people he can't be considered to be the greatest of all time considering he really lost 1 of 2 fights between JMM and some people would say he lost both fights but not only that he beat a drained Dela Hoya, an already def. Ricky Hatton, and you can say the same about Cotto who we all know hasn't look the same since he got plastered (pun intended) by Margarito! And Cotto really lost his previous fight against Clottey!.. Ok I said all of that to say this, you can't just go throwing words around like, "GREATEST OF ALL TIME." ALI, HEARNS, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, AND EVEN HOLYFIELD ARE ALL-TIME GREATS because these guy's faught other big name guys while they were in their prime and while they were on top. Pac is definitely 1 of the greatest stories of all time and one of the best boxers of this time, just not the best ever! Now if he goes on and beat Mayweather and Shane Mosley, I will be the 1st 2say he is the greatest and the same goes 4 Mayweather if he beats Pac and Mosley then he would be the greatest but most hated of ALL-TIME!
Both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather was born to be Great but the difference is Manny Pacquiao teaches everyone to believe in God, while Floyd Mayweather teaches everyone to be evil like what he says in their fight against Dela Hoya. I think Manny Pacquiao is God's instrument to teach Floyd Mayweather to believe, and not only Floyd but all of us.. Pacquiao-Mayweather bout is a "Fight of the Century" and Manny Pacquiao will win this fight in knock out to let Mayweather enlightened and learned about his mistakes. "Good versus Evil" a Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather story...
The TRUTH is, Floyd Mayweather ducked COTTO in 2007-2008 and then announced his retirement, MOSLEY in 2007-present, and PACQUIAO – presently. HE ALSO ducked Margarito in 07'.
Listen to DJ Ra's conversation with Floyd on youtube. Look it up.
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COTTO CAMP DID NOT WANT ANY PART OF MAYWEATHER, MOSLEY DUCKED MAYWEATHER WHEN MAYWEATHER WAS TRYING TO LAND A BIG FIGHT ANT THROW-DOWN 4 MOSLEY'S BELT (SAYING THAT HE FELT THEIR WAS A BIGGER FIGHT OUT THERE
What I meant was: Fair share for "Money" who's quite confident he will reign over Our "Manny".
Pacquiao is not the greatest. Wait until Mayweather gets hold of your so – call hero. He been beaten before, is that right? Get it right, you loser.
In response to Jerome Harrison,
Manny may have narrowly edged out Marquez, but Pacquiao obliterated Hatton in two rounds, Mayweather did it in ten. Manny TKO'd De la Hoya (though, admittedly, he was well passed his prime) in eight, Mayweather won by split decision. To compare two great fighters based on how they beat the same opponents isn't how you resolve this debate. Let it happen in the ring.
A darn Good man a good fighter better quit while he is ahead, all good fighters sooner or later go down, the body can only take so much punishment before a younger fighter takes advantage of the old one. But vanity takes over and a good man hits the canvas like a sack of potatoes go home Manny go into politics stop thinking your unbeatable remember Ali?
Whatcha going to say, when Mayweather Jr. beats up your so-call hero. Say nothing! Pack up, and send him back home. We are the best, the World as ever seen! Don't you people forget it!
the greatest boxer ever with a humble hurt. Mayweather should learn some lessons to make him humble...
Godbless Pacman and Philippines!
Pcquiao will go down as one of the greatest of all time for what he has already one...But he will NEVER...EVER, EVER, EVER....EVER, EVER, EVER beat Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather. Pacquiao is fast, Floyd is faster, Manny is 5'5" and Floyd is 5'10; with Mayweathers defensice prowess AND reach advantage...Manny wont stand a chance. Look at the cotto fight, cotto was successful in bodying manny and puching him back at times before he was weakened...coto has always had a suspect chin and many beleive he was damaged goods after the margarito fight...FLOYD HAS NEVER BEEN KNOCKED DOWN! Cotto came straight at Manny with no footwork or slips or bobs...I reiterate...FLOYD IS THE GREATEST DEFENSIVE FIGHTER EVER! oh yeah...MANNY SHOULD HAVE LOST TO MARQUEZ AND WE SAY WHAT FLOYD DID TO MARQUEZ...MANNY BEAT DE LA HOYA AND HATTON AFTER FLOYD SOFTENED THEM UP! Do the math...Floyd mayweater is just too good hate him or love him
tHE WORD GREATEST IS NOTHING TO WHAT PACMAN HAS SHOWN.iF THERE MAY BE OTHER WORD TO DESCRIBE HIS HUMILITY AFTER EVERY VICTORY WON, PASSION AND DEDICATION TO HIS SPORT AND THE LOVE FOR HIS COUNTRYMEN AND FOLLOWERS..THEN THAT IS ..MANNY...HE IS AN INSPIRATION...
Keep going, keep going Your are best boxer with big heart for poor
people in your country.Sure Good help you.
Sorry, Mohamed Ali, the replacement has comming after a long wait.
Pac-Man the best of all times.
Mayweather undefeated, hmmm well let's see....perhaps coz he picks his opponents?? perhaps it's coz he chooses the smaller ones??? so why not fight Mosely or Cotto? Doesn't matter anyway, he's all mouth and this is why he wants the bigger purse, so tom ranks can't accept and he wouldn't have to fight a real boxer like Manny....
and for those talking about Mayweather beating Marquez (again, amaller than him and chosen by him) need I say more? Manny has proven himself period. Mayweather is just a mouthfull just like his dad, empty words.
Congrats Manny, heaven shines on the right person. Stay humble!
Also, great fight Cotto. At least you proved that you're also a great fighter! Let's see Mayweather fight you....NOT!
Mayweather will knock him out haha whenever he decides to start training. He doesn't care at all about Manny at the moment. He's living it up undefeated and rich.
Floyd is all talk! Manny is the true champion! Glory for Floyd is money! Manny is the true inspiration an true sportsman! Floyd will never be remembered as a champion but as a moneymaker. Manny will forever be known as the greatest champion of all!
GO PACMAN! PULVERIZE THAT HIPPO LOUD MMMOOOOUUUUTHHHH.......
MAYWEATHER! THE TIME HAS COME TP PUT AN END TO THIS
NONSENSE RUBBISH BOXER.......
HAHAHAHAA....
BEWARE MAYWEATHER HERE COMES MANNY ...
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME....
Everyone of us around the globe should be thankful of what we
are witnessing at this moment in our lifetime. Let's thank God that the
greatest boxer of all time, with his amazing speed is with us today...
not 50 years ago...not 50 years from now. There have been greats in the past and will be greats in the future. But the GREATEST of all is showing his greatness LIVE today as we live and we are able to watch history unfold right before our eyes whether live at the MGM or on pay-per-view. The important thing is...it is NOW. People have the
rare great opportunity to witness the "Greatest" in their lifetime and probably tell these stories to their grandchildren. People in the past were able to witness live the fights of Armstrong, Joe Louis, Ali and the other greats but perhaps we are more fortunate than our forefathers and human beings in the future hopefully beyond 2012 because now we are witnessing the greatest in the person of PACQUIAO ...today... during the lifetime of the people living now. .....Let's CHERISH these moments...It is GOD given.
What happen with Mayweather VS Hatton and Pacquiao-Hatton:
Hatton was in a close desition when a lucky pounch finish the fight and with Pacquiao he was destroyed.
There will be no place were Mayweather will run in his bycicle against Pacquiao,he will punch him either if he is running to the crowd.
I hope Mayweather for the first time in his life fight like a real boxer not like a chicken running all the time and throwing a few pounches to win the round!!
The PACQUIAO vs. MAYWEATHER mega-bout may not happen because of money issues. Mayweather wants 65/35 split in his favor.
The Pacman camp wants 60/40 going their way. Both fighters probably
deserve what they are asking for. But if they stick to their ego and pride and their own money split condition, then the fight WON'T HAPPEN and that would deprive the boxing world of a truly great fight.
HERE'S THE SOLUTION...
If both fighters are brave enough and confident of winning, then they should agree to fight with the following condition:
– If MAYWEATHER wins, he gets 65/35 in his favor.
– If PACQUIAO WINS he gets 60/40 going his way
If they agree on this, then we are in for a truly GREAT fight. Both
fighters will surely do their very best for the pride and honor at stake and the lion's share that the winner truly deserves !
Mayweather gonna knock pacman out to the dreamtime! Pac isnt that great.
"If I go out and make $60-75 million in one night; come on – I'm not losing."-Floyd, Jr.
Floyd will never be the gentleman that Pacquiao is. Neither will he ever have the heart, courage & dignity of a courageous fighter like Cotto.
The realistic challenge now for Floyd, in his wish for another huge payday, is whether he can box & dance for a full 12 rounds without getting hurt by Pacquaio.
Anyone who witnessed surgery using Cleto gloves as done by Pacman will have to accept the possibility of major facial damage. Floyd is a knockout with his words, Pacman's a knockout with his fists. If the fight happens, it will be a clash between a boxing surgeon's fists versus an excellent boxer's skills. May the better man win.
i hate to say it but he beat another shot fighter so dont go licking him yet
Manny V Mayweather...That will be some fight!! I think Manny'll do Mayweather in because Manny will take the fight to Floyd and has the ability to sustain it. Go, PacMan
I'm proud that I'm FILIPINO originally from Davao City. More Power to You, PAC-MAN. You truly is the greatest boxer of the WORLD.
Do you know anyone do a live concert right after a 12 round of boxing fight? Normally they go to hospital for check up but Manny Pac-man go straight to Mandalay bay for a mini concert. LoL
Manny
Keep reaching for the stars, but keep your feet on the ground.
Stay humble. Stay safe. Stay healthy. Stay God-fearing.
I was going to say that it is probably good for boxing if Pacquiao and Mayweather fights. Then I realized, they are not in the same "eras" anymore. I agree, it's silly to call anyone "Greatest of all time" as different players encounter different opponents and situations.
Sadly, Mayweather fighting Pacquiao is all about money. As much as this match up is sooo mouth-watering... I would prefer not to feed either camp's egos... in particular Floyd. Manny is a fighter and not a player. Manny is about gloves and not bling. Manny is about the people and not himself.
u can hate pacman, u can love him, u can underestimate him, u can do everything u want, but remember, even if u say anything u wanna say about him, words cannot change fact and history....
BOXING HISTORY TELLS WHO HE IS, THE FACT TELLS WHO HE IS.....HE IS THE HUMBLE FIGHTER FROM THE PHILIPPINES. TO BE GREAT IS TO BE HUMBLE....
HE IS MANNY "PACMAN" PACQUIAO THE GREAT....IF NOT THE GREATEST.....
PACMAN your an ICON. You're indeed a hero to every Filipino. Now, we feel like Philippines exists. Because of you, Filipino was globally recognized. Keep it up !
Manny is a destined man. He has a special mission on earth. Call it a DIVINE mission. The mission is not clear now but would be later. Note his ritual before and after the fight – Praying at rings corner and making sign of the cross as often as the opportunity brings. Does anybody ever think of it deeply? Thats why comes the unnoticed weapon of Manny – no fear character that intimidates the opponent which contributes to opponents defeat. The HOLY SPIRIT is with him.
I'm looking forward to watch Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr fighting for the money and fame at MGM, Las Vegas, Nevada ... or at Trafalgar Square!
@Stephen, Manny cant be a defensive boxer if his opponent can't hit him because of speed. LOL
i cant wait to see Money May kiss the canvas!!!
Manny Pacquiao, please please beat Floyd Mayweather JR. it's because he talks so much kaka and the world will celebrate when he gets knocked out because he so deserve it for being so damn show off, he thinks he is the greatest but please Manny, do us ALL a favor, KNOCK HIM OUT! when he is knocked out, punch him again and again no mercy for me and tell him do not get up. Please! God Bless
Manny Pacquiao, you're great. Floyd Mayweather Jr., you're great too and see you at the ring with Manny.
The Greatest of them all! mayweather jr can retire again so that to avoid facing Manny in the ring.
Good luck on your next fight Pacman...
The most important thing to me he put first god in whatever he is doing. Secondly, he is very humble man.Thirdly, he is a man of discipline.
When Muhamad Ali retired the boxing sports is not interesting to the world, But when Manny Pacman box in the ring the boxing sports became colorful to the world.
For me he is the second Muhamad Ali....
Many please dont join in the politics, its really dirty game, MAY GOD BLESS YOU, whatever your decision.
in order for the filipinos to pay gratitude to MANNY for bringing honor to our country let us vote him as a SENATOR!!
It was not Manny who claimed he was the greatest. They compared him to the likes of Ali, dela Hoya, Sugar, Armstrong ...
If you have heard his post-interview after the fight – Manny humbly said "I am just an ordinary fighter" to which Fred Roach said "No Manny you're not ordinary"
As for the upcoming Pacquiao-Mayweather fight; it will be a fight against good vs evil; humility vs arrogance; fighting for honor vs fighting for money
congrats to manny for that great show .. he is one of the best fighters out there.. and enjoy watching his fights.. But to tell you the truth I perfer to so manny and mosley.. mayweather just isnt a fighter that you can call the best.. hasnt really fight anyone till he got into the 140lbs.. the only good boxer i remember him fighting was corrales. at 134lbs. or less I think his just a little scary girl that chooses very careful who to box. and top all off his boring!!!!!! good job mosley for punking him after the last fight.
Manny may be the greatest boxer or not but HE FOR ME IS THE BOXER WITH THE GREATEST HEART. THAT MAKES HIM THE GREATEST AND TRUE CHAMPION
Glad to see how the greatest boxing bearing the 7 world titles in 7 divisions. Doesn't it sounds the greatest? None of the compared other fighters have done it, nor history of boxing has told. No question as of this year 2009 and behind he is the greatest boxer ever stepped on the canvas. God Bless Manny!
I'm proud and happy to witness Manny's success in my life time. He emanates goodness too but good luck on going into Philippine politics. I think politics in that country is like a black hole slowly eating up wealth, conscience and dignity. It is where evil dudes disguised in shiny barongs and wide smiles hangs out. I hope you won't be one of them Manny.
manny...you are really the best fighter that we have in boxing. you make us all proud to be a filipino.
please don't run for politics, you can serve your countrymen even without it. it will only damage your reputation. it will really be a big knockout for your name.
proud pinoy...proud batanggenyo!
where in the world can you find a fighter who schedules his own concert immediately after a championship fight – win or lose? and concert he did! incredible.
when its time to fight, he fights ferociously. when its time to have fun, he does it with style. the pacman is enjoying life to the fullest.
keep it up pacman, keep doing what you enjoy doing the most – for your self. you are my idol.
I had my doubts about Manny beating Miguel Cotto. But what surprised me was the beating that he dished out to Miguel Cotto. I think that he is a legend because it will be long time before a boxer of his calibre is seen again. So yes for now he has to hold the record of the greatest pound for pound boxer we have ever seen. Floyd Mayweather disappoints me because if he wanted to call himself great he would take on all comers like a few years ago why did he not fight Miguel Cotto. Why did he not fight Antonio Margarito. He chose rather to retire and then fight Marquez. WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF FLOYD – TO BE GREAT YOU MUST FIGHT ALL COMERS LIKE Sugar Ray Leonard did Like Tommy Hearns did, Like Marvelous Hagler did
You may have the finesse and hand speed but you are not an ALL TIME GREAT. You will eventually disappear into history having achieved nothing but made money. I really hope you lose to Manny Pacquiao so that you can come back to reality and be humbled, Maybe then you will have something to offer to the sport of boxing besides money
Here is the (God to honest truth)....Pacq-man is a hall of fame fighter. Not a top 10 fighter but definitely a hall of famer, based on his body of work today. Floyd is a top 15....scratching on the surface of a top 10.....now that includes body of work, difficulty in technique, and record. Now i'm not the type to give people unjust props because of an "undefeated record"....for the record, I do NOT rank Rocky Marciano in my top 10. Top 15 for sure, but the facts are facts...other than a 44 year old Joe Louis...most cannot name many of his opponents nor are ANY of them top 20. People sleep on Sugar Shane, he is a hall of fame boxer....his losses come from VERY credible boxers, he's not top 20 but he is a hall of famer i.e. a great in his time.
Now...people seem to rate on here, the fact that Pac man fights it out, and gives the audience what they want. Fair critique....BUT, the object of the match is to WIN, if we can't base boxing on that and start giving a whole bunch of credit to a crowd pleaser....then people like Mike T would be a top 3 fighter....and everyone EDUCATED in boxing KNOWS much better than that.
Pac has a chance to win...as does anybody who EVER steps in a ring. So who ever is COMPLETELY dismissing him doesn't understand boxing either. However, the people who do understand....know that mayweather is damn near un-beatable by somebody of Pac's size....counter punching and speed will 9 times out of 10 beat aggressive and speed....that's how Roy Jr lost (out of his prime and underweight)....Mike T lost in the 2nd part of his career....and George Foreman.
Whoever says Ali ran.....is illiterate, or didn't see his fights with Joe Frazier, or the one that ULTIMATELY cemented his legend....the fight with Foreman (F previously knocked OUT Joe F...a pound for pound top 10 on most expert lists; and he knocked out MANY of his opponents, he was the Mike T of his day with better opponents and more strength)...despite all of that Ali TOOK punishment and STILL beat him. NOBODY can top that as far as it stands today.
Now...I know people say what about the 7 weight classes....and its great feat in this day and age...simply because people don't do it. People COULD, but do not, and honestly its sad that they don't compete in classes only 4 pounds up. BUT that does not rank him well with the older greats....look at the weigh ins of Ray Robinson's opponents....dude fought in what today would be 11 weight classes....11!....so don't tell me about the weight classes....it's too many of them to BEGIN with.
It'll be a good fight to see....I don't think you guys are going to see what you are anticipating (Pac man winning....him KNOCKING Floyd out)....however you have a chance to see greats in their time fight)...but don't let race/culture/preference blind you from a rational decision or bet.
Floyd, although flashy and flamboyant.....is the REASON boxing is alive in the states...and that means more than what a developing nation as small as the Philippines can generate in financial support (no knock here...I actually hate capitalism, and think its the reason for Philippine poverty). Floyd deserves a 60/40...he SHOULD take the 50/50 if that is given, as this still stands to be a great pay day.
And he's right to a degree to say he has nothing to gain.....The reason most people don't like him are for 2 reasons....1) he's flamboyant and not humble 2) he's a defensive GURU....those facts about him are NEVER going to change. So people's opinion of him, if bad....are typically NOT going to change
If Pac-Man wins....you guys will crown him the greatest ever, which will be insane STILL, but he'd crack the top 10 for sure with a win over him. But that's completely prejudicial to not be prepared to say the same of Floyd if he wins.....you guys are very hypocritical.
I have no preference really and want to see a good fight. Good luck to both men, and
To the Philippians (if spelled right)...remember it has been blacks in a large percentage that have boycotted the Vietnam war, it was blacks that refused to fight the Asiatic brotha (Ali!)....it was blacks that disagree overwhelmingly with Asian exploitation. So don't let something as little as a "boxing match" turn into race baiting....that's what Euro centrism is ALL about....its what Imperialism is all about....it is what the WESTERN world is all about. Brotha against brotha etc. So don't let others speak for every black person....we Love you guys more than we love other Americans.....that's REAL talk. Peace and Good luck to both communities.
if Manny will face M.Floyd on the next match it will be interesting fight and who ever will wins on this event it will always be a game and entertainment to us and no hard feelings nothing personal and they will always be recognized as a great fighters
There is only one that can defeat Manny Pacquiao that will knock him out and they called it the Long neck. 🙂
manny pacman has the humble spirit character in sports let mayweather talks like a small kids and he shall find the answer from pacmans gloves....floyd m is too heavy but try to go down and meet pac-man at 145-147 lbs don't talk too much ....ok
Pacquiao is the best amongst the best boxer the sport ever produced... Seldom you see a man of his stature speaks softly, just smiling always and speak good about his apponent. Way to go Pacman!
Manny is the best. He is a power punch machine. Watch floyd! Manny will grilled you.
I don't care anymore if he's the the greatest of all time. Nobody knows for sure. You can't compare between generations because so many factors. But just being considered one of the greatest is more than enough. He doesn't even compare himself. Such humility. We all know how truly great he is. Pacman Pride baby!
manny is a great fighter he makes every filipino around the world proud
what is interesting is that he is the only fighter who prays before and after a fight
Manny Pacquiao, Is the best in sports, he is a humble guy,
Manny Pacquiao actually doesn't have to fight anyone anymore. He can just rest on his laurels, enjoy life with his family and concentrate on entering political life or be a rocker with his band. With hundreds of millions of pesos in the bank he can afford to retire and stay retired and not worry about coming back, in hopes of getting another jackpot prize like someone we know. Does anybody have any idea what one can do and buy with one billion pesos in the Philippines?
Jay Truth – ... I agree it has nothing to do with race but It's obvious that you do not place any value in any of Pacquiao's achievements. You have discredited every single praise thrown to the guy (from the 7 titles in different weight classes, to the excitement he brings to boxing, to being an inspiration to a nation and so on).
I also don't get the rationale about boxing being alive because of Floyd being from the US. Being from a developing country has nothing to do with how many money boxing can make.
I truly admire your attempt to be partial.
actually, you may be right... of course Americans will watch more pay-per-views when it's Floyd – he is American after all. It's understandable to support your own.
PACMAN is truly one of a kind and no doubt one of the GREATEST with my all-time favourites, ALI and HAGLER. Just considered myself very lucky to see this greats during my time. There is no rush indeed to give him the honors (time will grant him eventually, for sure) as he is set to raise the bar some more given the opportunity. Just bear in mind, especially for the critics that this kind of fighter, we might see only once probably in a decade if we're lucky. Better, just sit down, grab your six packs and enjoy the masterpiece from the man who gives his sweat and blood to provide us memorable and excellent performance. LONG LIVE PACMAN!!!
WHERE ARE YOU NOW MR. JEALOUS MAYWEATHER GUY?, SHUT YOUR MOUTH OUT AND FIGHT MANNY PACQUIAO, I WILL BE HAPPY LOOKING AT YOU SLEEPING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING VERY SOON!
Once again i see so many of the comments are devoid of true boxing knowledge and an appraisal of each fighter's ability.
All i read except for a few educated comments is people getting emotional about how much they love Manny and how much they hate Mayweather. And of course a lot of the comments are based on ethnic pride, which is ok, everyone's reserves the right to say how they feel and pledge allegiance any which way.
But this (if it happens) will be a boxing match not a popularity contest. And therefore each fighter's abilities should be appraised. I love Pacman, he's something else, really exciting fighter BUT we all need to be sensible here. Yes so many hate floyd they want him to lose so bad (even the cat himself acknowledges this).
Diego Corrales (RIP), Floyd stopped him.
Arturo Gatti (RIP as well) people said finally Floyd get his ass whopped...need i say how it ended
Carlos Baldomir – too big too strong finally Floyd will lose, yet Mayweather beat him so bad, he's gone into oblivion.
Hatton? Yeah, his style would finally do floyd in at last he will lose, yet floyd took his time, figured Hatton out, even fought his style just to prove a point to people and dear friends, Hatton never been the same fighter since....
It can go on & on, i've always said, i understand why many hate Mayweather but he is a pure talented fighter and wishing him to lose wont be enough.
Manny for me lost those fights (at least the 2nd one) to Marquez, because JMM is a counter puncher. Morales won their 1st fight cos he fought a brilliant counter offensive style. That style worries Manny, cos for all his aggression he's not great defensively, and gets tagged coming in on a consistent basis by a counter puncher who can time him coming in, whilst fighting laterally with lots of movement.
Its this reason i simply dont see him beating Mayweather – the supreme counterpuncher especially with his ultra defensive skills ring savvy and speed to boot. Floyd wont get tired, he doesnt joke with training (no matter how cocky and arrogant he may come across) he never seems to get distracted once its fight time. I once read that he has never held any other job in his whole life besides box...this game is all he knows...
It might not seem exciting to most (this style) but its effective and its hard to see manny defeat a fighter with such attributes; styles make fights as they say in boxing. Roach was understandably riding the crest of emotion when manny beat cotto that night, then calling out Floyd (he once said on fightnews.com that he'd rather not pit manny against floyd because of floyd's style). When the calm returns im not so sure he'd want this fight especially if he wants to preserve manny's cult status.
To end, Mayweather actually feeds on the hate people display towards him (i guess it works for him though) he appears to love being the villian, like it motivates him big time. I love manny, cos i love the sport of boxing but im also not emotional about stuff and understand that based on my knowlegde of the sport, each boxer's abilities in my eyes, die-hard manny fans would probably be dissapointed after this one is done.
IF MAYWEATHER WILL FIGTH PACMAN JUST BE SURE THAT MAYWEATHER USED HIS GLOVES NOT HIS MOUTH, TO MUCH TALKING MEANS NOTHING
Manny Pacquiao is a tremendous boxer, one of the greatest.
He is humble and simple and that makes him even greater.
I'm a great admirer of him.
It is insulting that some posters attempt to "rationalize" and "educate" the readers about how disillusioned they are with their posts favoring Pacquiao. These comments are as blind and one-sided as the readers they are supposedly trying to educate.
I agree – each fighter is great at their own right and styles regardless of their contrasting attitudes and values. I guess, I prefer to just leave it like that.
There's nothing wrong in cheering for the so-called good guy who shows humility amidst all the egos. For a positive ambassador of the sport. To be fair, there's nothing wrong to want to be the villain who places value in money, ego and fame... after all – it makes the whole situation more interesting... hence all our attempts in this forum banter to disprove each other.
Call him whatever you wish, but Manny is just doing his job when he is inside the ring. Most of us considered him as the greatest boxer of all time but for him he just want to entertain boxing fans and make people enjoy the sport. I hope Manny will continue his humbleness and kindness throughout his career and his life. And in my own opinion, if Manny wants to continue serving and helping Filipino people and making them happy, stay away in politics. There are so many ways he could help people outside politics. In politics, you will see the most wicked people on earth. Those politicians are the cause of the fall down of every nation in the world. So why joining them? Live in peace............ You have all the money in the world to live a peaceful life with your family. So stay where you are......
Money, Power & then Woman, this is the falldown of every famous man....... But then again this is just my own opinion.
Live in PEACE and humbleness. This is why your are being blessed with such strength and power.
You made every Filipino so PROUD!!!! We appreciate that.....
BE GOOD ALWAYS!!!
Is Pacman the Greatest? I’d say he is… in our generation. For someone who comes from nothing and becoming the face of boxing today…. He is destined to be.
For the people in the Philippines, he is the greatest boxer. For the world, with titles on how we measure an athlete for his achievements, he already reached that greatness.
But still, the world wants to see a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, a fight of great boxing skills, heart, dedication and intelligence. A fight between an offensive fighter and a defensive fighter will be a great fight.
With Manny’s win over Cotto and with Mayweather’s comeback, it now says one thing. The fight of the century!
Only a match between these two and for the world to witness it, only one fighter will be defined as the greatest boxer in our generation.
Be a witness!
Hey Oli.If Pacman Fights JMM at 144 lbs,I'm very sure it won't last 12 rounds.Pacman will demolish and knock JMM out in the earlier rounds.Way better than what Floyd did to JMM.Just remember,PACMAN gets stronger as he gets heavier.When PACMAN fought JMM the last time,PACMAN struggled to reach the 130 lbs required.But it's a different story now....I do believe,PACMAN has the capacity to knock out Floyd the Runner!FLOYD will surely be surprised by the POWER of The PACMAN!
i have been following manny's career for a while, no doubt to me he is pound for pound the best boxer in the world. I cannot wait for the day when he shuts that arrogant american boxer's mouth, whats his name again, get confused, not sure if he is a rapper, wrestler or cast member on SNL with all that junk that comes out his mouth. Only way he can remain undefeated is to hope manny goes into politics
no doubt you save the sport of boxing
Manny you are making a very big mistake by entering politics. Its the dirtiest profession in the Philippines. Its one of the biggest reasons why the Philipines is regressive. With your popularity, influence and growing power you can bring prosperity and progress to your constituent ,and even solve the current crisis in the south, all without entering politics. You should seek an advice, or a poll among non-cconstituent, a poll on neutral grounds. You are clean and honest, but you will not be able to control your people. They will use and abuse you. Please distance yourself from politics. Do what Bill Gates is doing. Dedicate your foundation to try to eradicate poverty, first at your city, district, province or even the whole country. Provide eduacational assistance, fight diseases.
Also, I do not believe that you have another woman behind your own wife. With your money it is very tempting to try evils in this world. You invoke the name of many times... before, after a fight, during interviews, you always your gratitude to God. I admire you for that. So please stay from politics and women.
God bless you.
Manny is the greatest boxer in his generation by beating De La Hoya, Hatton and Cotto it just probe how excellent strategic and clever fighter Manny is but he is truly one of greatest boxer of all time
Yes, he is the greatest. I saw the fight against Cotto live, wow. The best boxing match I have ever seen. That is real entertainment. And, most of all I feel so happy for the people of the Philippines.
Pacquiao's speed and power is a gift from God because of his being a God-fearing and God-loving person. You want greatness guys? Then let's strive to be a God-fearing and God-loving person on earth! Congratulations and thank you Manny for showing to the whole world the open-secret of your GREATNESS!!!
The Legend continues... PACMAN is the BEST!
He never said that he is one of the Greatest Boxer in the world, yet he deserve it. He is Amazing!
" NO DOUBT" his the greatest...when others are saying that FLOYD better than manny, that is rediculous. Manny has a passion for boxing and FLOYD has a fashion for MONEY . That is a big difference.
THINK ABOUT IT
pacquiao is the greatest boxer in his time...and so humble..mabuhay ka manny
Pacquio vs. Mayweather. This fight shoud take place in Manila. I was visiting Manila during the Cotto fight. The city stops for the fight. It's amazing for those that have been there. The time difference is a concern, but Pacquio fans will watch the fight regardless of the time. I also believe this would fit Mayweathers technique of invading the head of his fighters-he would definitely take advantage of the opportunity. What would be the slogan "****** in Manila". Anyone agree? CNN, atleast pose the question.
Pacman should win the laureus sports award, SI athlete of the year for 2009. He is at par with Tiger Woods, Roger Federer, Usain Bolt and Lebron James and Michael Phelps today. He is now a global icon and man of our times. His humility, God fearing and training ethics are beyond words. If your religion and government cannot give you hope, pacman is the guy that can give hope and inspiration in the years to come.
I glanced through a few of these post and what I've noticed is that the majority of the people on here are not boxing fans they are just band wagon fans. Manny has done a great job with the competition he has been put up against, the thing is I'm not that high on the competition he was up against. Ocsar= old, Hatton= never was anything from the get go,and Cotto= a fighter that was shot after he took that first beating...never was the same again.........Manny beating Floyd is a whole different thing and I'm not a big Floyd fan but I think he is a way better boxer than Manny. As far as either one of them being the greatest now that's a joke ,I have watched boxing forever and they both are good fighters but the greatest? Not even close.
I liked boxing when Muhammad Ali was still around (like I enjoy kung-fu movies with Bruce Lee in it, i like movies with Marlon Brando in it). I like to watch boxing again because of Manny Pacquiao. He is fascinating to watch in the ring as well as outside of it. And his life story is just as fantastic ! To me, he definitely is one of the greatest.
If you watch most of his early fights Manny has fought like a hurricane and now fear has struck the Mayweather camp, asking for a blood test before the fight. We have to realize that Manny is a Filipino from a poverty-stricken country follows with many faiths in magic,chance or dogma by superstition and the Mayweather is a aware of that weakness, and it's taking advantage of the situation from not fighting and bow down in grace in front of his fans,
Who cares if Manny Pacquiao doesn't fight the loudmouth Mayweather? Mayweather and his promoter Schaefer can keep on whining and playing mind games but in the end they will realize that Mayweather is really scared of Pacquiao and would do anything to duck Pacquiao's fists. I am convinced that Pacquiao is drug-free. Psychological warfare is a tactic employed usually by a weak opponent in hopes of planting the seeds of doubt in the other side's mind.
money mayweather wanted to get the biggest share thats y he has lots of gimmicks,blah blah blah,excuses(blood test)etc this well aroused peoples interest in this match up thus tsunami ppv happens.
f mayweather will not act like he did(big mouth badmouthed pacqauio),the upcoming fight will not be as popular.remember that money mayweather loves money
floyd MONEY mayweather loves MONEYYYYY BUT HE S SO AFFRAID OF MANNY.dont be a coward money boy just do ur talks by fighting manny the maleman boy
do i think manny is the best? he str8 but i think Kurtiss colvin and james mandingo kirkland r doing they thang too
Maybe the greatest of this era, but not off all time. I say that only because the level of opposition he has faced doesn't compare to alot of other all-time great's resumes. For example Sugar Ray Leonard defeated Marvin Hagler, and Tommy Hearns; what fighter has Manny Pacquio faced that is as good as Hagler or Hearns?
Manny pacman is the greatest boxer in the earth that's it !next game ! Manny vs alien!
Is Pacman the greatest of all time?? No he's not.
Is Pacman the greatest boxer fighting at the moment?? No he's not.
Will Pacman beat Floyd Mayweather when they fight?? No he will not
I will not admit to Pacquaio being the greatest fighter of all time at this point, but I submit that he is the most exciting fighter to watch at the moment.
Will Pacquaio beat Mayweather?
The better question would be "When will Floyd Mayweather accept a fight with Manny Pacquiao?"
Yeah Peter your right. . Manny's speed was inborn. . I saw him fight when he was still unknown . . he throw six punches in rapid succession leaving his opponent clueless on how to counter. .he is truly amazing . . never seen any boxer who could throw more than 4 punches in rapid succession with enough power to hurt. .
Long Live The King