I have been in the kingdom for the past three weeks, saw a lot of saudi women shopping alone and going to places freely. I wonder where is the oppression we here and see on tv?
Regarding the sports as explained to me by my Saudi friends 90 precent of the Saudi women dosen't like to participate in some sports, for the reasons of their exposer to the other sex.

Alex Gordon, you are Saudi, aren't you? The grammar and spelling mistakes gave ou away.

Alex Gordan........If you see women "shopping freely" what ever that means......it only is because their male jailer gave them permission to do so. How would you like it if you had to get permission to do the simplest of things? Need to gas up the car?......gotta get permission. This is not only silly, but very demeaning.

And, as for women playing sports.............why would you expect them to wish to when they have never been exposed to sports or allowed ever to play them in the first place?

Physical exercise is very good for the heart and body, but women are not allowed to attend to their own health, like men are.

Personally, I think the Saudi's have this all backwards.....the men should be kept our of sight and need a woman's permission to do anything, like drive a car, go out on their own, freedom to wear clothing that is comfortable and weather appropriate, etc.

Women don't cause world problems, it's the war loving men who do.

I don't understand why the world focuses so much on women rights in Saudi Arab or other Islamic countries when the problem with the Filthy women revolution has gone out of control in their own states.!!!!!! Islam provide a neat solution to every single problem of the Modern world. The Only problem is that they are injecting lies into the innocent minds with deceptive revolutionary talks and Materialistic Gains, which the innocent minds cannot comprehend. But the real reason is that is that the Modern world rejects the true meaning of women and the rights of Women and want to exploit the women by empowering them with political rights. Just by giving them political rights will never solve any thing. How the modern world looks into the life of a women and has ever looked into it since the 10 or 12 century is by displaying them as a symbol of slaves and use them for benefits.

Its funny that we believe in aliens, but refuse to believe in the possiblity that there may be women who live in other parts of the world and who may hoose to dress modestly.

The latter doesnt create a ruckus about their scantily clad counterparts in the Land of the free. Just as us americans choose to shed our clothes, these women chose to cover up. Far from being oppressed, they cover up due to their sense of piety.

Live and let live.

Where is her burka? COVER YOURSELF HARLOT!

Why does the western media seek to impose your values on other cultures again and again? Why can't you just respect that there are certain things which are different and leave it at that?

Why is US behind Muslim women, US can look at the status of their own women and improve it, in US many women as used as S ex objects

Rather than veil women to prevent male lusts (what raging beasts the Saudi men must be, if they can't control themselves), I suggest the men be chemically castrated. Please! Mohammed never said anything more than that men AND women should dress modestly; all the rest of it is power tripping by wizened male clerics. Makes. Me. Sick. Very glad to be an American women, and very sad for my Saudi sisters.

Well, Alex, did you see any woman driving?I guess this all oppression thing is just the Western media imagination.

Shame on us. Really.

This is absolute nonsense... In 5th century AD people considered woman as man's property... S. Arabia is the only country in the world where 5th century nonsense in still followed

We want to save the Saudi women from the oppressed lives they live? Most of them resent our attempts to re-define how their lives should be lived. To put the shoe on the other foot, the Saudis think Sharia law would be good for us in North America. How would we feel about that cultural and legal system being imposed on us by foreigners? Let the Saudis be Saudis. It's what they want.

I'm really wondering why people can't compare the crimes committed on women in USA or in any western country to that in Saudi arabia or in any Islamic country where islamic obligations are met. also, even you don't have much experience in statistics, you can realize how Islam protects women with simple thoughts.
I'm a mature saudi male, will not take on women's behalf but will say the truth that doesn't satisfy people who seems to be an animal just hound for their desires with all meanings of demeaning women..
i wish if westerns try work on their crisis and try to find solutions to reduce the high rate of rape, abortion, and sexual harassment instead of trying to draw others in their deep hole!
so, mind your own business

crime level is low because you treat women as slaves? seriously. get real. poor women. just take your hands off women. you go wear those stupid clothes and you stay at home if it is that good idea and you ask permission since it is another brilliant idea.

but it is somehow their fault too. women raise those retarded brained males. they should raise them as normal human beings instead of a caveman.

This won't be the first time the Saudis made an announcement that sounded progressive but turned out to be false. Back in 2009, KSA the Human Rights Council in Geneva that women could leave the country and get elective surgery without a guardian's approval. A month later Human Rights Watch reported that the proposed changes had never been made. Go to the HRW website for corroboration.

@tariq:
In USA people will get punished once they try to sexually assault a women, while in your country the women will get punished after get raped.

nice logic, no wonder retard man loves ISLAM

@muslim:
in muslimic country women are slaves,

still USA is a better country for women than any MOSLEM country

Story ... Interesting...

Fat depressed hypocritical comments following ... priceless...

Outcome... Niet...

@Tariq and all the other supporters of keeping their women enslaved. Cnn broadcast today what happens to women when they step out of line in the Moslem world, They shoot them! The brave Taliban soldier fired multiple shots into the chadured female until she slumped over. Her crime she had three males fighting over her. Or she was raped by three men, or she WAS having an affair! How women achieve having an affair with a constant male guardian baffles the imagination. Here in the States that would be called pimping. By the way Alex Gordan, did you see any public executions while in Saudi Arabia? The women you saw shopping unattended were likely members of the Royal Family. I understand it is an extensive family, over 70,000 in a recent published statistic.

American women are quite nice and pretty. Most american women are very educated and they could also be somewhat dominating over men '*.:,.

@fuckislam

Sorry to say but from where did you got the concept that in Islam if someone commits adultery whether its a male or female, then only the female will get punished.
This is the very reason that i.e the lack of Knowledge about Islam which prototypes the the Islamic law to go against the Humanity but actually they point entirely different thing.
Let me give you the reference from the Quran on what is the punishment of a Adulterer (Male and Female)
Chapter[24:1]
(1) The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment.

Please Sir who ever you are don't manipulate Islam in your own way, first know the source then point a finger.Thank You

@cantwegeton
Nice to hear on your thoughts about how the Muslim world is treating the women, but you have to ask your self a question and ponder on it that whether news which is fed to us is it all really authenticated and researched out or its all a fabrication and a Lie !!!!!!.
Women in is Islam is not considered as a slave but given a greater higher degree of respect to them, by giving women the Hijab it is not disrespecting them but in actually a protection against the lustful eyes of the Sexually frustrated world. If you like history i would recommend you to read the value of women in the medieval era then you might understand that how has Islam has contributed in providing the respect to the women. i hope i made clear some points as women in Islam is a whole Agenda of discussion that if we start discussing it, I am sure that you will understand many thing out of it and clear our many misconceptions about women in islam!!!!!!!

If Saudi Arabia is such a protector or worshipper of women, Explain Female Genital Mutilation.

It would be nice to hear from a Saudi women on her views about this rather than American and Saudi men debating on how they think she feels.

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DROD I really respect you your an educated man!

If you actually look a the qur'an, there are very few laws that are set in stone. Most of it is grey area. In other words, most of it is ambiguous and UP FOR DEBATE. The reason this was made was so that people could adapt Islam to changing times. A system that worked hundreds of years ago might not be the best one for now, and these grey areas were supposed to make Islam flexible.

All this b***** about sharia law comes from men in power wanting to control women to keep themselves in power and have the support of other highly patriarchal men. Sharia law IS NOT SET IN STONE. Look at history. Look up what ijtihad is. There used to be discussions about it. Women used to be jurors and judges. There was a famous woman who stopped an uprising just by using her word.

Like in other countries, Saudi Arabia uses women's rights as a political tool. It has very little to do with Islam. It has to do with them using Islam as a political tool to keep their stupid royal family in power (royal family which goes to Bahrain and the UAE to drink and do behavior prohibited in their country).

To the other commenters above...you guys REALLY need to go read a book. Genital mutilation? That occurs primarily in Africa and is based in culture, not religion. In fact, Islam prohibits cutting of the body (just like it prohibits tattoos) because the body is sacred. Saying women are better off as slaves? Lol, I'd love to see you as a slave and see if you think it's "better off". No one should be slaves. Rulers shouldn't use religion to abuse people who have historically been oppressed.

Women rights abuse is everywhere. No matter what country you go to, you will find women who have their rights taken from them. In the US, women are objectified and made into sex objects, deal with harassment (like many other places), have their reproductive rights become issues of national debate, and get lower wages than their male counterparts.
In Saudi Arabia, women are made to be excessively dependent on their husbands and thus their individuality is, to a certain extent, limited.

Whoever thinks that this issue is just about Islam is obviously too simple to understand how complex women rights is in these dictator countries. They are a form of control, a rallying point, something that can be used to show how they are "different" from Western countries, and a way to keep the country fixed in the old past rather than embracing new things (and thus risking getting thrown out of power).

@Idk..

Genital Mutilation is not a Saudi thing... its an African custom.

In regards to the Olympics.... just read the names of the ppl who actually participate... male and/or female.

They are either the Elites of the Saudi society; or immigrants.

When it comes to rights.... everybody in Saudi lacks them. Some more than others. It is all about who you know and how much money you have.

You are a harlot for calling her that.

Wow. My Family has lived in Saudi for 30+ years. My Mom would wear Niqab and wasn't aloud to drive either but, she loved the country. She said most of the women she has met are okay with the way the government works. Of course it sucks not to be able to drive, but it isn't like, "Holy crap, I can't drive! Its the end of the world." Though this driving law issue has nothing to do with Islam, that is what the western media potrays. Saudi is a really nice country and they do have some flaws and not everyone agrees with them, but what country doesn't?

all of this nonsense about women and rights, look where it has gotten us,, we have michelle bachman (sp?) in one of our highest offices. i mean really, people, women driving.?? shopping without permission of their male dominator, next thing u know they will want to work,,,, and eventually they will want to be paid. they will demand actual human rights, and we all know that father allah, or father god for u western fundamentalists, only ordained such rights for the male of the species. tut, tut, tut. if we give in here, women might eventually influence decisions. could u imagine women running the world, we would probably lose our biggest source of income as well as population control,, war might become a thing of the past. we cant have that!!

I honestly feel that most of theses people on this message board r so utterly stupid and ignorant...theses crimes against women happen everywhere...do your research before you talk out your ass! Men everywhere will always feel superior to women...so they will continue to sell , rape , enslave, abuse shall I go on! But I look at things this way what comes around goes.

It has nothing to do with being Muslim , catholic ,Jewish african , american white and so on its Men!

Anyone who wants to argue that women have equal rights in the US can then try to explain to me, in any rational way, the reason that women earn $0.77 for every $1.00 a man makes in the SAME job with the SAME qualifications. I am not convinced that a 23% reduction in pay speaks well to gender equity in the United States. It is a symptoms of long-lasting gender discrimination that is deep and far-reaching in its effects.