April 4th, 2012
12:21 PM ET

Why Liverpool must sack Kenny Dalglish

Kenny Dalglish has been unable to recreate his glory days at Liverpool since returning to management.
Kenny Dalglish has been unable to recreate his glory days at Liverpool since returning to management.

Perhaps you have seen this statistic before: Since January 1, Liverpool have picked up only eight points in the English Premier League. Only Wolves, rooted firmly to the bottom of the table, have been worse.

Yes, these are trying times for a club that once dominated domestic and international football. With only seven matches remaining, the Reds are closer to the relegation zone than the Champions League places and seem to be heading nowhere fast. One thing is clear, a change of direction is needed and it is needed now.

At various times this season I have been criticized, on my blog and on Twitter, for writing that Kenny Dalglish should be sacked as Liverpool manager. Surely now, even the most passionate fans have to start questioning their idol and the role he should have at the club.

This season has been quite simply a disaster for the Scottish coach. From his decision to spend a fortune on average players, to supporting Luis Suarez during a racism row, to overseeing the worse run of form at the club since the 1950s, it has been a campaign to forget.

For those of you who are thinking of February's League Cup final victory, I’ll come back to it. For now though, let’s focus on the mistakes.

Charlie Adam, Jordan Henderson, Andy Carroll and Stewart Downing. What do they have in common? They had won no major trophies when they moved to Liverpool. Furthermore, only Adam had ever played in the Champions League and none of them had ever been part of a successful top-level team.

So the question is, what on earth possessed Dalglish (with the backing of the club's director of football Damien Comolli) to spend a combined £80 million ($125 million) on them? No-one knows. They were average players, with some potential, but to dish out that kind of cash was just insane.

Mistake number two saw Dalglish completely misjudge the Suarez incident, in which the forward was found guilty of racially abusing Manchester United's Patrice Evra.

Instead of waiting to find out what had happened, he blindly stood behind his striker and even sanctioned the move to make t-shirts supporting the Uruguayan, who was subsequently banned for eight matches. There was no apology, there was no remorse, there was not even the simple questioning of his player’s actions.

Only after Liverpool's American owners got involved - following Suarez’s decision not to shake Evra’s hand before a league match after a suspension that left Dalglish without one of his most important players - did he reluctantly come out and criticize his pupil.

Finally, Dalglish's management skills have been questionable at best. Liverpool have had one plan all season, 4-3-3, and it hasn’t worked.

I know that Brazil midfielder Lucas Leiva has been injured, and captain Steven Gerrard was out of action for a long time, but Dalglish has still failed to get the best of any of his top players. Has he really spent time on the training ground working on the strike partnership between Suarez and Carroll? I doubt it. Has he even decided where to play them?

And what about Downing, Craig Bellamy and Dirk Kuyt? They rarely seem to know what they’re doing and where they should be playing. To put it simply, it’s a shambles. No wonder Liverpool have lost six of the last seven league games.

The impression I get is that Dalglish thought he could manage a team now just like he managed it with great success more than 20 years ago. Motivating and shouting might have worked back then, but it certainly doesn’t work now. The Premier League is a place where managers need to have one, two, maybe even three strategies to implement during games. I am still not sure Dalglish has one he can count on.

So back to the League Cup. I am sorry Liverpool fans, but this doesn’t make the season much better. So you won a trophy for the first time since 2006, but does it really matter? Liverpool beat an average second division side, after a penalty shootout, in a competition where most teams play their reserves - and all it earns is a place in the second-tier Europa League next season.

Is that the way forward, is that what Liverpool really want? I doubt it. Just ask Birmingham City supporters. They celebrated winning the League Cup at Wembley only to see their team relegated a few months later.

So if Dalglish is not the solution, who is? I would definitely find a way to get him out at the end of this season and I would bring in a new man with new ideas.

Forget Rafa Benitez, there is too much history there already and many players wouldn’t be too happy to have him back. Instead Liverpool need someone like Germany coach Joachim Low, Marseille's Didier Deschamps, maybe even Brendan Rodgers of Swansea - one of the Premier League's surprise packages this season.

They need someone young and dynamic to turn the place around, and they need to do it fast.

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  1. Phil

    Charlie Adam won a few trophies in Scotland.
    Andy Carroll won the championship with newcastle.
    Stewart Downing won the league cup with Middlesboro.
    Charlie Adam has played and scored in the champions league with Rangers.

    I 100% agree with your article Pedro, but it's important to get your facts right.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Reply
  2. Blindside

    We need Mourinho. Now he would really suit Liverpool ! I am sure.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
  3. GC

    Knee jerk nonsense.

    80% of the time we've played phenomenal football this season, with a combination of bad luck and poor finishing.

    Unfortunately, not finishing teams off when we should creates a lack of confidence.

    We're playing the best football we've played in 20 years ... Kenny will add results to the mix.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Reply
  4. Woody

    You have no grasp on some of these issues, that's the main reason I'm not going to finish reading the article

    April 4, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Reply
  5. lancasterred

    Manchester City played loads of their reserve players when we knock them out over two games. Eerr no they didn't. If you cant get that right ... Americans should stick to American Football, end of

    April 4, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Reply
  6. Thomas

    You know, nothing. Things take time, you can't be in an absolute mess and expect to win the league just because you've splashed some cash and got a new manager. These players need to take time to gel together. Dalglish is a fantastic manager, and only has Liverpool's best interests at heart, which he has proven time and time again since he first joined.

    It is the players who are not performing, not the manager. Have you even ever played football?

    April 4, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Reply
  7. B Stanton

    1, 2, or 3 strategies in place – Sounds like a plan Pedro, that’s why your a journalist and not a Manager –

    Brendan Rodgers HAHAHAHAHA – Real Pedigree.

    Talking about mistakes, are you really a sport Anchor? I think CNN made one too!

    Kenny will lead us to victory next season – He will NOT be sacked this season. But if you carry on writing garbage like this, jumping on the band wagon, with little, or no research, then I think you may be looking for a new position soon – and maybe CNN will think about bringing somebody onboard who is young and dynamic who actually thinks for themselves.

    You live far away enough from Manchester you could actually be a Man U fan?

    April 4, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
  8. Dicky

    More drivel I see.
    15 Months he's been in the Job. Does a manager of Kenny's ilk not deserve more than that ?
    To get where LFC want to be is going to take years. If Kenny feels like he cant contribute he'll do the best for LFC.
    We cant become a Chelsea and sack every manager after a short period.
    The clubs needs stability.
    Always a season in transition, 5 other teams doing very well, was always going to be difficult to hit the ground running.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Reply
  9. Abdi

    Spot on p pinto. If KD really cares about LFC He should retire full stop

    April 4, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Reply
  10. Tony

    Complete rubbish!!, Man City have spent several hundred £million so far and won the FA Cup, Liverpool can do a cup double this season having spent £40m net. I don't care about our lge position at all, as we are after the FA Cup. We should be blooding our top kids in the remaining lge games and rest the first team for the semi-final, worry about the lge next season.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Reply
    • wills

      you dont care about our league position?!!!! You would rather have LFC being a cup team then!!!

      April 5, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Reply
  11. cody

    LONG LIVE THE KING !!!

    stay away from 'Pool u haters

    YNWA

    April 4, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Reply
  12. cchana

    Your point about winning trophies prior to joining a club makes so no sense because that's not exactly what Phil Jones, Ashley Young, James Milner, Jolean Lescott, Samir Nasri and Gael Clichy all did at their clubs before joining their Manchester based clubs. Only Gael Clichy won anything of note in the past 7 years!

    Football transfers are always a gamble, and English players have always been at a premium. I'm not saying Liverpool have spent well, but at the time, Downing, Henderson and yes, even Carroll looked like OK buys.

    Lucas isn't the only player Liverpool are really missing, Agger's absence has also hit them hard.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Reply
  13. Jake

    I'm reading all those comments and my god are most of you people insane, liverpool outplayed 80% of the teams they played against, now way in hell. Pedro is right, Dalglish is not the way forward, the players he bought most of them are mediocre and hasn't shown any promise, players on the pitch run like headless chickens, subs too late no plan b, not even sure there is plan a. If you see the build up play in Rafa's team you'll see what beautiful football is about, not what Kenny has implemented. Adam for example cannot even pass with the tempo of the game. yes if you want the slump to continue stick with KK give him more time , see you in the championship. We're already in 8th if we continue playing like that all the best players will leave after the end of the season is that so hard to see?? sentiment away kenny has to go world has moved one since 1990 surprised people don't see that

    April 4, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Reply
  14. Amit

    I think most of the comments here are by deluded fans living in some fantasy world. We are spiralling down the drain and there is no rescue in sight. We all love Kenny but any other manager would have been fired by now so why should it be any different for Kenny? If he can't do it then he can't do it. No shame in that. This has been a terrible terrible season. How many fans can go through another one next year?
    I personally have some small hope that Rafa will come back one day. Let that be sooner than later.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Reply
  15. Dave

    Lads, honestly...im a diehard Liverpool fan but can see the errors of kennys ways. Charlie Adam is actually our leading assist make this season and has contributed to a third of our goals but he is not good enough i dont think. Carrol is shockingly bad and WILL NOT come good, downing might, hendo will eventually. But will new forwards bring us on? Its difficult to know, I think with Lucas and Gerrard in the middle we look good but with downing underperforming we still havent cured the wing problem so we can rely on that aspect. Strikers and Wingers then and a holding midfielder and a playmaker,m the only problem with this that its exactly the same shopping list we were all crying out for last year and look at kennys signings!!! unbelievable really. Think it's time to get a younger manager in. Kennys handling of the suarez affair and his general handling of the media is so frustratin g and it relly exudes ignorance on his part to how the media affect a football club and how people around the world percieve it which is all tied into money and thats what it all come down to as in all walks of life...Money. Kenny will be sacked this summer. Simple. its just finance.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Reply
  16. FAN

    When we beat chelsea, mancity, stoke all away from home. Did they really play their reserves?

    Also if we did beat "an average second division side" its because they reached the final at the expense of Arsenal, United, Chelsea, Mancity, tottenham. Is your point that if we did beat a big club in the final, it would count as something?

    We beat 3 huge teams away from home to get there, how does it matter if we played them in the quaters, semi or final?

    April 4, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Reply
  17. Bello elisha

    We really need joachim leow of Germany not benitez at all

    April 4, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Reply
  18. philip von brockdorff

    Whereas Kenny has made mistakes, your assessment of the situation is LFC is simplistic. I could do a better job at CNN with a more professional and objective assessment of why LFC has lost so many points this year. Winning a trophy after six years was an achievement especially after beating City and Chelsea. Of course, Liverpool are still miles away from a top four status but only a few years ago we were beating Real Madrid, Barcelona and Inter Milan. The problems at LFC go back to the previous ownership and King Kenny was the right choice at a time of transition. The transition will take time and nobody in his right frame of mind expected LFC to finish in the top four. It was easy to dismantle what Rafa built (with a lot of mistakes too!). It took a brave man to take over as manager. Roy Hodgson couldn't handle the pressure but King Kenny can. He won't throw the gauntlet and he's certainly more dynamic in his analysis of footbal than Mr Pinto!

    April 4, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Reply
  19. Rob A

    Moderately insulting to suggest that 'tactics' and 'coaching' are new to the world of football. Alf Ramsey, Trappatoni, Herrera, Michels....good to know they did what they did by shouting and motivating and not worrying about new-fangled things like tactics.

    The side Dalglish constructed in the late 1980's played some of the most beautiful football that England has ever seen. Fact (as Rafa woudl say).

    As a regular at Anfield I don't have a problem with criticising Dalglish, Comoli or FSG...but perhaps CNN could provide something a little more forensic than this. Surely?

    April 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Reply
  20. Mark Cohen

    Also, 4-3-3, although used a few times, has simply not been the formation of choice. Liverpool have played 4-4-2 in over half of their matches. Again, decent article, but low quality on facts.

    April 4, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Reply
  21. Jake

    I like seeing the support for Kenny in these post and they are all correct (except the remark about Americans and proper football).

    King Kenny is in his first season! As I remember when I was a kid, Ferguson didn't have the best first season with Manchester and look where he is now!

    No one wins over night and the team needs to build a foundation to move forward on and that is what Kenny is doing!

    April 4, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Reply
  22. J Deacon

    100% behind this article fans. Legendary status as a player and manager does not automatically make you a good manager. League Cup? Let's be honest, no one really cares about it. The £35M Carroll purchase has got to be contender for worse signing of the season.

    Kenny needs to go, he brought a bunch of average players for ridiculous prices. As for the argument about bad finishing and how we are unlucky is all rubbish – this is football and thats what separates the best teams from the trash.

    To be honest, I knew this was going to happen. It takes time to compete but without CL, we will continue to attract trash like Downing, Henderson and Carroll. FACT.

    PS. – U are not allowed to lose to Wigan at home under any circumstances, asked Steve Bruce – he got sacked after a result like that.

    April 4, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Reply
  23. chevy

    I hate how journalists like this dude keep saying sack someone from their job with authority, hey Pedro what about CNN sack you for this piece!!!!

    April 4, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Reply
  24. Maria

    Kenny needs time!
    loyal fans should be able to wait

    April 4, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Reply
  25. Jono

    Dalglish needs time and time he must be given.

    The modern day football manager has to possess the inate skills of a diplomat ( tick ), the intrinsic cunning of a fox ( tick ) and a degree in collective psychology ( tick ) and even with all of the above, could still be kicked out like Christmas trees in January ... at least that's what you advocate.

    Kenny has Liverpool branded on his heart and long-suffering supporters the world over trust his leadership.

    Granted, certain players have let us down during this season ... but to palm it all off on Kenny is ludicrous.

    Believe me, the King would rather bow out graciously than harm his beloved football club.

    YNWA – Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish

    April 4, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Reply
  26. Alan

    We'll see next season, Pedro. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. We'll see next season how Kenny does. My bet is he'll surprise you with what he knows about football.

    April 4, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Reply
  27. Ayoob

    The writer seems to be a fan of American Football, not real FOOT BALL. I feel sick when I read articles from those who don't understand ABC football. King Kenny is the right man. it is his first year and he needs time to build a strong team.
    fyi;
    Did Sir Ferguson win in his first year, second year or even third year?!!! He started with Man U in 1986 and his first league trophy was in 92/93 season, first FA Cup was in 89/90 season and first league cup was in 91/92 season.

    April 4, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Reply
  28. Noob

    Kenny is doing a difficult job but the team is playing better with more attractive football. team has lost its way this yr, bit it wasn't half bad last yr was it? Has everyone forgotten?
    He has made 1-2 seemingly wrong decisions on players, especially carroll, but he did seem an English young player with gd potential. It's a risk that didn't pay off but even fergie has gotten players wrong before.
    if Kenny gets sacked, then who else can takeover? Wat are yr alternatives? Only morinho and Martin o neill are good alternatives. If we can't get them, then keep Kenny for now

    April 4, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Reply
  29. stanley Abernethy,.spain

    What about damion?

    April 4, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Reply
  30. magnumopus

    Pedro,

    Looks like you are still a fan favorite mate! NOT!

    April 4, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Reply
  31. alyn

    Although I doubt you grasp the concept of the EPL and LFC in particular the main issue of the article 'kenny being out of touch' is probably spot on

    April 4, 2012 at 3:28 pm | Reply
  32. SIVA

    Its stupid to sack the the manager.The Team should deliver and if cant something or somewhere within the palyers lay the mistake and that player should be sack. They are paid to deliver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    April 4, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Reply
  33. Alex

    ----------Reina

    Johnson--–Agger----Skrtel------Enrique

    Kuyt-----Gerrard---Henderson---–Downing

    --------Suarez---Carroll

    4-4-2, simple as that. Give Downing a chance to succeed by playing him wide left. Scoring goals in the Premier League is all about width. Here, the scousers have legitimate width with Johson, Kuyt, Enrique, and Downing.

    Still, I'm a United fan, so I hope Kenny keeps persevering with his terrible selections and tactics.

    April 4, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Reply
  34. Kai

    Give Kenny Dalglish time, folks! Even if Sir Alex Ferguson is appointed, he will take 5 years, just like in the past, to give results! Liverpool is like a testing case which needs fan's positive vibration and not negative ones. It's because of those negatives vibes that Liverpool is fainting! Be positive and sacking a manager to bring in new one will otherwise become a seasonal hobby!

    April 4, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Reply
  35. LvrplFan

    It is true that this is a season to forget for Liverpool. I had high hopes when Kenny was named to manage and now I feel he has misstepped too many times. Andy Carroll is not worth the money that was spent and Saurez should have been terminated for his racist actions and terrible follow-up in the wake of the FA findings.
    Liverpool is too good a club to allow this run to continue. They seem to be able to score, but then they let more in and therefore loose too often. Better defence is required and an improved effort at the front.
    Is it possible that we don't know the whole story and that there are invisible constraints that KD is under?

    Changes do need to be made and quickly as noted. If I were going to pick a new manager then my vote would be Martin O'Niell. In my opinion, he is the finest manager in the English league today.

    April 4, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Reply
  36. Steven

    I totally agree with everything you have written except for one thing...
    Swansea manager – Rogers has not the pedigree for a club like Liverpool... You can add him to your list with Adam, Henderson and Carroll!
    Low the German manager is the PERFECT fit! Second in my list would be Capello!
    Not sure if there is any other available manager with the experience and steel of them two at moment who actually would take the job!

    April 4, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Reply
  37. Xainu

    It's a good article but I believe KD should be the manager for the next season as well. Just give him some more chance of proving himself. And I believe he should buy some good strikers rather than relying on Andy Carroll and company.

    April 4, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Reply
  38. Raj S

    Pathetic article.

    Pathetic.

    Shame you weren't weren't a Man Utd fan in 1990. You could have used the same article to call for the sacking of Ferguson.

    You might want to take a few minutes to read the final report into the Suarez affair. See if you can find the phrase "guilty of racial abuse" I'll help you, you can't. He made reference to his colour and that is what he was found guilty of. Whilst the support of Suarez wasn't a PR success it was certainly reasonably rooted in principle – if you take the time to look at the facts and the process. I'd be aggrieved if even you were subject to it for this stupid article.

    You could do one thing though, your magic formula for bringing in new players when the transfer window is closed – you could let everyone know what that is.

    Rubbish article. Kenny is an excellent manager. You're utterly delusional if you think these things take time.

    If you do this for a living you should get another job.

    April 4, 2012 at 3:59 pm | Reply
  39. khaeffa

    I do agree with your comment. It hurt to see what happen to my team in league when people said we are the main contender for the league title before the season starts. I do prefer we win the league title than league cup or FA cup. Replacement? Lots of world class manager maybe & will be available comes June.... Capello, Guardiola, Loew.... to name a few... So lets John W Henry to decide next step...

    April 4, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Reply
  40. EDDIE COSTA

    WHY THE NAME OF SUAREZ HAS TO COME UP?? HERE.. HE GIVE,1000,% EVERY GAME HAS TO FACE 3 DEFENDERS BY HIM SELF, WHERE IS, MAXI RODRIGUEZ?? "K,D" IS AFRAID TO PLAY SOME PLAYERS HE JUST COVER HIS HEAD. AND DON'T ,, TAKE CHANCES,, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS ON DEFENSE, BUT HE ALWAYS PLAY THE SAME PEOPLE. WHEN THINGS DON'T WORK EVERY BODY HAS TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND,,AND TAKE CHANCES,, BE "BOLD", THANKS

    April 4, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Reply
  41. Aidan mcconnell

    Believe in Kenny he will get it right. Any other prem. manager would be delighted with the possibility of two trophies in his first full season. We gave a decent team who have just not taken their chances. Two or three additions in the summer and the future will b much brighter..YWNA KING KENNY

    April 4, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Reply
  42. Will

    Wow. Sorry mate, but you really don't know what you're talking about. I'm not a Liverpool fan, but i'm an avid EPL fan and have been for many years. Anyone who knows anything about football and the Premier League knows that this article is absolute rubbish.

    April 4, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Reply
  43. anupam dutta

    Benitez would have done better with this transfer fund.

    April 4, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Reply
  44. Ola

    I'm not a Liverpool fan but this comment like most of Mr.Pinto's football analysis absolute drivel. Not too long ago he was waxing lyrical about Wayne Rooney's overhead goal wondering how great Rooney is. Since then several other players have scored similar goals even in the Premier league to show that the skill is not something from out of this world. Pinto just does not know much about football. I really don't even know what he knows about. Same Pinto gave up on Arsene Wenger at the start of the season. Now as of today, Arsenal are in 3rd place. Great clubs do not just terminate their managers only because of a few bad results. A whole lot of factors must be considered especially prospects of future success.Chelsea have followed the Pinto model of hire and fire and have not had the success that so much money is supposed to bring. Dalglish will bring back glory to Liverpool. Pinto should look to analysing Netball!

    April 4, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Reply
  45. Killian Donnellan

    I'm really on the fence on this, I agree with your article its been a terrible season for Liverpool and Dalglish's style of management is old fashioned. But, something is telling me give him more time, be patient and at least wait till next season. But then you have to look at his record this season and his ideas are limited. If I was the owners and I wanted a new manager, I would pick Brendan Rodgers, Paul Lambert or the Valencia manager, I can't remember his name. Also, I remember the Liverpool owners saying they expected a top 4 finish, so it doesn't look good for Dalglish

    April 4, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Reply
  46. Evan

    No tactical planning? Kenny and Steve Clarke have tactically outclassed all the top managers in the league since Kenny's return bar Harry Redknapp.

    He deserves another year at least, the performances have been good but the lack of luck and goal scoring have cost us dearly. We need to sign a flair player and a striker in the Summer and the wins will start rolling in. We are still a long way from where the papers expect us to be

    April 4, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Reply
  47. marc

    Hello Pedro, WHY IS THAT A LOT OF READERS HATE YOU OR YOUR ARTICLES?, I think this is a very good article, one of your best, true the legendary Dalglish has lost the plot, he is no long term manager, he just can't do it, Liverpool is like a Ferrari being driven by a learner driver, I'm a gunner, and at the beginning of the season a lot of gunners jumped ship and joined Kenny and his mighty red – guess what, they're all back at emirates, but I thought the mighty reds would've provided some challenge this season, but all has been thrown out of the window, I think those who say this is a rubbish article, need to think twice or perhaps they only see things in black and white, then we can't help them, but hope in due course it will dawn on them

    April 4, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Reply
  48. farhan

    we will come back stronger than u expected and i believe in all the players and the manager at LIVERPOOL but have 2 exception those are carroll and adam.they are just not good enough for us.

    April 4, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Reply
  49. Stephen Kelly

    Barça bought Messi and he'd never won a thing at senior level. What on earth were they thinking?

    April 4, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Reply
  50. Rudi

    i agree... Downing, Adams, Henderson, Carrol, Jay, Jonjo. all british and no class, compare with Ashley, cleverly, Jones some class...at a time tottenham and city are on the rise, liverpool cannot afford to be this BAD. Kenny must go

    April 4, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Reply
  51. Bruce

    It is time for drastic action. Retain Gerrard, Kuyt, and Reina. Do staged replacement of the rest. The music died when Rafa fell out with Alonso. We've been a shadow of the real liverpool eversince.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:31 pm | Reply
  52. thomas

    were did utd finish in fergies first few seasons in charge of them.Well below liverpool we are a team of new players and new structure throughout the club i say calm down and support kenny and are luck will change Y.N.W.A.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:39 pm | Reply
  53. ciaran

    if man u sacked fergie so soon liverpool would still have the most league titles in england but they didnt and any loyal fan would no this and have faith in there manager especially a manager like KENNY. the suarez incident on racial abuse of evra was a joke it was one person word against another. the cameras seen noting to back up evras complaint so that should of been used to help suarez plea of inocent. but no the F.A. want to make an example of a south american man for racial abuse rather than there excaptain john terry who was clearly caught on camera. they just pass that off to the crowns court so they can keep him for the euros. And why should kenny wait to see what the FA say about the incident what can they see that kenny cant (Not the truth anyway). And why wasnt evra punished for cursing at saurez which he openly admitted to in his statement. On to the carling cup its a small cup but we knocked out big teams like chelsea and man city who played first choice players in the games. Also we are in the semi final of the FA cup and knocked out man u along with other good teams. Im not saying its a good season its only good in the cups. there is a lot to be done and cant be done by choping and changing mangers so soon. A lot of new players came in and need time to fit in properly. Carroll henderson and downing are over priced we could have got a lot better for the money. We should have bought one or two players to help the squad for the rest of the season in january. Liverpool are not looking to buy ready made big name players with big salarys. They are looking to make there own players whos pay doesnt put them into debth and have potential for resale value. Its about building the club back up again its not as if we done good in the last couple of seasons. We dont have it wright just yet but were on the wright path. it is going to take time. its not just a football club its business and businesses take time to get it wright as do football clubs do. we dont want to end up the way chelsea are going even with all that money they lost the structure of the team. Y.N.W.A

    April 5, 2012 at 12:16 am | Reply
  54. Greg

    Finally the press is starting to see queen kenny for the incompetent buffoon that he is! He has set the club back 5 years wasting money on mediocre Brit crap... give him more time??? You lemmings are clueless... another year of this incompetent clown and we will be playing in the championship... if dalglish wants respect for what he did 20 YEARS AGO.. go back to being an ambassador and shake hands with the sponsors... other than that you need to get out!!

    April 5, 2012 at 5:20 am | Reply
  55. Kevin

    All i need to say is that we need a change , and soon.. No more average cr@p from one the biggest football club in the world.. Being in denial wont help the cause, get to the problem and fix it.. Bad players and a Manager that beats only the top4 wont get us anywhere it shows the players that , thatsgood enuf.. Sorry we want PL and CL and it can happen but with new sensible staff at LFC..YNWA!!!

    April 5, 2012 at 6:53 am | Reply
  56. Zeeman

    Pedro sez:

    "So the question is, what on earth possessed Dalglish (with the backing of the club's director of football Damien Comolli) to spend a combined £80 million ($125 million) on them? No-one knows. They were average players, with some potential, but to dish out that kind of cash was just insane."

    Did you include the net £50m gain from selling the arguably even more useless Torres to Chelsea? no. because you're a cheap and lazy journo who ignores the facts when it suits your 'argument' – We're not a 'Chelsea' that turns over managers every time Abramovich finishes a vodka bottle. Give him another chance.

    April 5, 2012 at 7:23 am | Reply
  57. Jordan

    what does good/bad luck mean, esp in football? It's either you hit the target or you kick the ball elsewhere(over the bar, into the beam, straight at goalie etc). what bad luck? when you play badly you don't win. simple. that's what the reds have been doing. not bad luck, unless some one can explain what that means in football terms.

    April 5, 2012 at 9:17 am | Reply
  58. mark LFC

    Suddenly we have an American expert in British football. The hire-and-fire may work with corporate football America, but it ends there. Confidence is a funny thing. When you are low of it, everything seems to turn against you. I say we give Kenny time, and only time be allowed to judge his results. Uh yeah, one trophy after 6 years or barrenness isn't bad. A d we may be on our way to another silverware. All this on Kenny's first season back. Consider it a flop in America, but I see light at the end of the tunnel.

    April 5, 2012 at 9:56 am | Reply
  59. Edison Rj

    i agree on the article and i think kenny should be given a chance but still its no excuse to loose 6 straight matches if ur managing a club of liverpool calibre and 1 thing 4 sure kenny does nt have plan B if you look at many matches and he should try and start planiing new tactics.

    April 5, 2012 at 11:24 am | Reply
  60. jingo

    d only case of bad luck here,as i c it,is tht of d timing of LFC ownership.4 d first time in a decade we have money 2 spend!Frm playin some of d best ftball on d planet(tactics,gameplan&organisation) 2 "bad luck" ftball?.its simpl,most of us r still in d denial stage,FACT!

    April 5, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Reply
  61. Craig

    Hi Pedro, I'm a big LFC fan, agree with your comments on the signings, with the exception of Charlie Adam, the rest have been disappointing. We should not panic, can u imagine if Man U had sacked Ferguson when he was in a similar situation as Kenny. We need to give KD time to build a team for the future.

    April 5, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Reply
  62. innocent

    success is all about reaching your target. the target liverpool was given, was a simple one, that is champions league spot. any other thing besides that is a failure. Kenny is a failure, i am a die hard liverpool fan, but, sentiments can not help us, it was this same sentiments that led to the appointment of Kenny in the first place when we had better options from coaches like hindink. kenny failed in his buying and selling of players like benitez. he buys and plays players out of favouritism. he sold mireless and bought adam, the worst buy. torres for andy, aquilani on loan for hernderson. there is no reasonable coach that would play Kurt on bench. downing is definately a good player, he needs to play more games. Kenny needs to go. if it means scking every coach like chelsea, will see us to where we ought to be, then so be it. those talking about time should look at those coach that performed from the very first time like morinho, gardiola, or ancheloti first season at chelsea. we need merwick, Netherland national team coach. Kenny, Adam, carrol, hernderson, and caragher need to go. we need a holding midfielder like the ones we had that left like macharano and a central defender like shaw cross. we need a coach with modern football strategy and tactics, Kenny is old fashioned and a complete failure

    April 5, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Reply
  63. Horacio

    Adam never won the Scottish Premier League and he played a few games in the Champions League for an average Rangers team. The League Cup is not a major trophy. Sorry.

    April 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Reply
  64. pedrofromfrance

    I'm french, and i must say that the main problem for liverpool is COMOLLI! It's the Rocancourt of football

    April 5, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Reply
  65. wills

    Some of the things are correct. The carling cup isn't enough. We are LFC it is not enough, even if we win the FA cup it's still not enough, it is only hiding the cracks. I'm not blaming Kenny solely the players have to answer questions too. YNWA

    April 5, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Reply
  66. Dave Mac

    Deluded Liverpool fans biting at anyone who dares criticise their beloved club. KD lost the plot ages ago, along with most of the Anfield faithful I have to add! To buy players to replace Henderson, Adam, Carroll, Downing, donkey Carragher and possibly Suarez would cost in excess of £150m. They would be looking at recouping around £20m for Suarez and £25m for the rest. Do you, the great ignorant, believe that the owners will hand over another £100m just because it's "King Kenny". You are, at best, an average top ten Prem team with a reasonable cup squad. I didn't see any of that scouse grit on Sunday when you got cuffed for the 6th time out of 7, when you knew a draw would take you above Everton, when Carroll called KD a joke. Get rid of your 1980's tainted specs, it will take at least 3 years to get you into the top 4, even longer to challenge for the title.

    April 5, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Reply
  67. steve

    As an Everton fan I think he's doing a great job LOL

    April 5, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Reply
  68. jordanmajor13

    Correction, standard chartered forced Dalglish to reluctantly apologise not FSG

    April 5, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Reply
  69. Raja

    I agree that Kenny has bought some really average players and for the money that was spent on those players we should have got some real class players. Kenny took a gamble and it hasn't worked. The main problem is that Liverpool should be aiming to win the premiership and with players like Downing, Adam, Henderson and Carrol you wont win the premiership so the question is why sign them in the first place?

    April 5, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Reply
  70. Alex

    8 YEARS it took FERGUSON to win ANYTHING.... He has had more attempts at the European Cup/Champs league than any other manager and his win ratio is very poor.

    The top 5 have had tens of millions lavished on their 'stable' quads, year upon year – have not had the parasites in Hicks and Gillette bleed the club dry, then appoint an inept manager in Roy Hodgeson.

    Liverpool need to THREE TOP signings this year, ALL IN ATTACK.
    Cut the driftwood out... Henderson, Carroll and Adam could not step up to the top level – sad but true.

    With a THREE KEY attacking players, weighing in with lots of goals – converting the countless lost opportunities will see LFC a force again.

    I'd be tempted to blood the youngsters and bring them through – Sterling and co are real prospects.

    April 5, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Reply
  71. Ian

    I dunno Pedro, the margins between success and failure can be thin.

    Has Kenny created a team that create more than the average number of chances – YES

    Has Kenny got a striker in his ranks that can finish a chance regularily – NO

    The trio of Downing, Henderson & Adam seem to get most flak but I blame the strikers especially 1 which Kenny was panicked into buying and that is Kennys biggest mistake.

    April 5, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Reply
  72. Dr. Cajetan Coelho

    Kenny needs time. He is too big for the sack. Wishing KD, Steven Gerrard and the boys success in their mission.

    April 7, 2012 at 7:06 am | Reply
  73. innocent

    Suarez, is the best striker liverpool has. if the club is not ready to spend money in sacking Kenny and selling henderson, Adam and Carrol, then they will not reach their target, which is winning the premiership and being among the big four. this is modern time, we must not wait for 8 years like many man u fans are suggesting all in the name of patience to get it right. the bottom line is buying players, selection, formation, motivation and every other thing a club needs to excel, lies on the coach, at least 75 percent. so Kenny being the coach, has failed. it is a fact that no arguement can erase, ferguson did not win anything for 8years, but maintained a good league position. arsenal has less quality players even when benitez was with us yet made good achievement. they have never failed to be in the champions league. the remaining matches will be a dis appointing outing. kenny should resign hounourably or the club should sack him now

    April 7, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Reply
  74. Anton

    Generally SPOT on.

    LP is not my team BUT I was excited and watched their first game this season. THEY played so poorly that I told my buddy sitting next to me THIS guy will be fired this season.

    IT'S just above Kenny's level.

    And, clearly Suarez plays much much better with players WHO play like Latins: fast 1-2's. AND Caroll is the opposite of that.

    The way Suarez fiasco handled tells you the entire organization is a mess.

    PINTO no one on that list of coaches YOU mentioned would take the job EXCEPT maybe Rogers....

    I like some of the players bought, BUT Kenny just can't get max out of them.

    April 8, 2012 at 2:40 am | Reply
  75. Anton

    Maybe it is a confidence team BUT in the last 6 weeks they have been EVEN playing worse.

    April 8, 2012 at 2:42 am | Reply
  76. Ash

    As much as I have respect and love for Kenny, I must agree with Pedro to a great extent. Let's be realistic and don't allow our love and passion for LFC blind us. If we had ANY manager other than Kenny, he would have been fired long ago given the performance and the results that he has produced (remember Roy Hodgson former manager of the year, came in from Fulham and...). We have stuck with Kenny because EVERYONE loves him and that's that. His signings have shown to be complete disappointments (Carrol is just the tip of iceberg and I agree with the guy who said that he will NEVER turn for good) and he has failed as a manager when it mattered (How on earth could you blow a 2-1 lead and lose 2-3 to QPR?). The League Cup victory however joyful for us fans longing for silverware since 06 does not weigh as much as some people have suggested, remember we were trailing in the shoot-out and if it weren't for luck and our prayers we would have lost that to a second division side. The days of old school management are long gone and over and Kenny himself has been away from the action since the last time he managed a side and seems to be not in touch with his squad in terms of strategy, side selection and spiritual uplift of his boys. I would really like to see young new faces with fresh ideas to turn things around, the likes of Deschamps, Klinsmann (though he is unavailable), or even Villas-Boas (given enough patience) would be the way forward rather an old school charismatic figure with blunt manager skills.

    April 8, 2012 at 9:27 am | Reply
  77. Said Morales

    I do agree with this article in general terms, but I disagree with your comments about Suarez. In Venezuela and almost all LA our culture (calling a dark skin people "negro" or "negrito") is comonly acepted and even a simbol of support, confidence and friendship. For example, mi uncle calls his wife "negra" and viceversa. So it would be considered by the English FA. Evra is just a crying man who is take his chance to get over Suarez.

    April 8, 2012 at 7:57 pm | Reply
  78. Said Morales

    And about Benitez.... still he is responsible for the bad Liverpool situation. He put in his player's minds a insane way to see the foorball, playing like machines without imagination and just focusing on defending. I am writing from Venezuela, I am 44 years old, and always a Liverpool fan since I was a child

    April 8, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Reply
  79. tafi

    KD has got LFC playing decent football with two major weaknesses. The first is a lack of cutting edge finishing LFC is just atrocious. We need a tried and tested finisher or bettter yet a talented youngster. Next bring in someone like Aquillani and spice up the midfield area. Pedro you didnt get this correct though. No need to sack KD. The team is improved vastly from the damp squib that it had been reduced to in the last dayds of Rafa.

    April 9, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Reply
  80. alehandro

    As he could potentially win 2 trophies this season KD's reign is not exactly a failure, but he's certainly not above the chop. His purchases have been poor and owe more to wishful thinking than true pedigree. In Suarez he saw himself as a player; in Carroll a Rush or a Toshack; in Downing a John Barnes; and in Adam a McMahon or Terry McDermot. Sadly for Reds fans they are not the dopplegangers he would like them to have been and the buck stops with the boss. Media relations wise he's a disaster. His stand by your man mentality over the Suarez affair was a serious error of judgement in the face of overwhelming public condemnation of the Uruguayan's actions, and in fact only endorsed the perception that the veteran Scot is a dinosaur in today's game. His man management skills have also got to be questioned. Can you imagine Fergie or Wenger giving their players the public shellacking KD dished out after the Reds loss to Bolton? So there've been a lot of negatives this season, not least of all Liverpool's slide down the BPL table out of Champions League contention and possibly even Europa League contention had they not already made it with a League Cup win. Is all that enough for him to be sacked? Yes, but I sense it would be a public relations disaster if he was. Unlike Mancini at City, KD's role at the club supersedes results. He's an icon and a symbol of traditionalism at a club whose future is firmly rooted in its past. There is a "Liverpool way" and KD is the epitome of it. And I think it would be a wrong move by the owners to sacrifice all the goodwill Kenny attracts from the Liverpool faithful in the wake of one contradictory season. On the other hand, unless they win the FA Cup and enjoy a major revival over the remaining league games of the season, they're entitled to feel that a dose of hari-kiri would not go amiss, though I think they'll be waiting in vain.

    April 9, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Reply
  81. innocent

    i quite agree with the Ash on sacking of Kenny. roy hodson did not stay as long as kenny who has gotten even worst result than Roy. so let us leave out sentiments and call a spade a spade. Kenny will never do a good job and with him, liverpool will continue to fail. we predicted sunday`s game before it was played, thesame with Tuesday`s game against blackburn and the rest. we need a new coach, appointed on the best qualification and not sentiments. as for gerrad calling for patience, he is not making any sense. the time to act is now. if Chelsea had patience, they would not have gotten where they are now, at leaset, they are better than us. Sack kenny now before we lose more than 4th place

    April 9, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Reply
  82. Evode

    Kenny DALGLISH needs"TO LEAVE".
    We can't provide more time than the"whole January transfer window".
    He had January to add atleast 2 players.(a right winger and a striker) to his thin squad(even loans would be better),but he stood by saying that,he's happy with the squad(the quote which hurted me from January and still).
    Roberto SOLDADO is comming to Anfield.
    Leave out of sentiments.
    And a new manager with at least 7 new players could do the job.
    YNWA.

    April 9, 2012 at 11:15 pm | Reply
  83. alehandro

    Just had to say something about those pointing to Fergie's poor start to his United managerial carer as evidence that Kenny should be given more time. Fergie was the unfinished article back then. He'd managed Aberdeen to minor European success but had never managed a top flight English club and had never played in the English top flight so it was a steep learning curve for him. By contrast Dalglish spent the bulk of his playing career at the top of the English game; he's in his second spell as Liverpool boss; and he also managed Blackburn and Newcastle in the Prem so he knows the territory and, as a veteran of England's top tier, has to be held to a higher standard than Fergie in his United rookie years. It's apples and oranges.

    April 10, 2012 at 4:34 am | Reply
  84. Joint Manager

    Under Rafa, Anfield was a fortress. But Rafa's away record was abysmal. On the contrary, Kenny's home record is atrocious and his away record commendable. So, it may be a good idea for the owners to consider a Joint Managers arrangement again – Rafa to take charge of home games and Kenny for away games. The only problem with this arrangement is when they reach the semi-finals or finals in cup competitions where they play in a neutral venue. But this is a good headache to have.

    April 10, 2012 at 10:23 am | Reply
  85. Kaush

    WE ARE PLAYING THE BEST FOOTBALL I HAVE SEEN IN A SEASON IN A LONG WHILE. Yes there have been some average moments, and dont forget Lucas Leiva had 2 terriblle seasons before he become the player he is. Given the new young lads time!

    April 11, 2012 at 11:29 am | Reply
  86. arun

    all kd have to do bring a goo winger ( HAZARD) an a striker who is experienced .

    April 12, 2012 at 10:20 am | Reply
  87. A Red since 62

    Me thinks that a lot of comments come from people who don't know a lot about football and certainly NOTHING about Liverpool,
    King Kenny will rebuild a team like we have not seen for decades, he lives, breathes, eats and s@@ts Liverpool its more than in his blood, he is a real foundation stone that can be built upon solidly for years to come, you knock the League cup as if no one wants to win it, if so why does it exhist? but 1 Cup won and a Final place for the FA Cup, If they do the double they will be the first club ever to do that TWICE.
    Yes King Kenny is the MAN give him time.it's only his first season.

    April 14, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Reply
  88. Ben

    Pinto needs to get fired before KD. He makes no sense at all. KD was requested (At first,KD was not interested in the job but he did so for the sake of his love towards the club) to succeed Rafa Benitez and imagine how messy LFC back then. Torres was a mess. He made enough money selling Torres to buy Suarez and Carroll. And I bet u Suarez is wayyyy better than Torres today. Chelsea would have to lose money if they are to sell Torres today. LFC was unfortunate to miss Suarez for 8 matches (which was very harsh penalty) in the name of so-called racism. LFC would have been in top four had Suarez played them 8 matches. Look how Suarez and Carroll outplayed Everton at FA semis. KD wants LFC to succeed and he would do whatever it takes next season. Perhaps some summer signings. Long live King
    Kenny.

    April 15, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Reply
  89. Hope

    Wow, I can tell you're a football guru. Why are you wasting your time writing blogs? Why not go apply for the manager position yourself? It's easy to criticize, especially when you don't even have the details right. First of all, Daglish had no say in the amount of money spent on those players. That wasn't his job. It was Comolli's decision to pay that. Yes, there have been mistakes. Managers are humans, not gods. So Liverpool is in 8th place. So that means he's the 8th best manager in the country, correct? Where are you in your job? If you're less than first in your country at what you do, maybe you should be fired from your job! According to your standards, EVERY manager should be fired because they've all made mistakes. Oh, and let me guess, you're a Manc, right?

    April 15, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Reply
  90. Ponciky

    Pinto always stirs up discussion. Liverpool is doing supper badly, but it is mostly down to bad luck. To build a new team does take time, and you do not need every player in every position to be a star.
    By the way Arsenal is 3rd in the league and Wenger is still working.
    Pinto loves Mourinho.

    April 16, 2012 at 10:01 am | Reply
  91. Mario

    I'm a liverpool fan by body,mind,heart and soul. I think we need too look at new couches that have been couching for sometime now and have a winning combination at his current team .we have a good team at this moment but our 4-3-3 formation does not produce any good gools ,we cant keep on winning by shear goodluck gools that would not help as win the premier league or help us get fouth place next season and we also need to look at bring-in another stricker for next season to get a winning combination cause i no that all liverpool fans want's want too see us back at the top and playing champions league again cause of we keep playing this way we will hit the botom one way or the other .
    With my proud HEART i urge the liverpool management too start planning for next season cause we love our REDS. Bring back ALONSO and RISE

    April 16, 2012 at 10:50 am | Reply
  92. hairy o

    dont you agree that KD was the man who saved LFC in 2011 from roy hodgson...dont you agree that HE is the man who bring at least one cup (league cup) to Liverpool...i love to see andy caroll being sack for what a little contribution he made to the club although he scored that winning goal to reach FA Cup Final...im a die hard fan of liverpool and youll never walk alone...hurrahhhhhhh

    April 16, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Reply
  93. Name*Leo Okafor

    Its hightime Liverpool take their destiny in their hand. Football is a game and not about sentiments, and as such should get a younger dynamic coach who will build a new Liverpool club. As a liverpool legend, King Kenny could be assigned another role and definitely not a manager!

    April 16, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Reply
  94. Christian Kanu

    I believe pinto's analysis of the situation is his personal idea as a sports journalist, not as a coach, a former player, a fan, nor a football pundit. Truly man, you could have gotten approval to the training ground at anfield and see for yourself the strategies KD is working on, rather than saying he plays only one formation.
    I believe KD should stay. He knows the job, bought the players and has said repeatedly it is a WIP. We will get back to winning ways, indeed we have started getting back. I am dissappointed we are not gunning for the league title but, I am consoled we are playing in two finals (might even win both) this season. Next season, no champions league, yes. Europa league we will play. Hopefully, we will win. YNWA.

    April 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Reply
  95. futbol player

    I think it is a little to early to sack King Kenny. It takes more time for these young players to gel and I don't belive the American owners have the courage to sack a LFC legend.

    I don't think any other club has had such a string of bad lucks and an uncanny ability to finish off games.

    However I do feel that the modern game is very diffrent form the time when KD was playing, using long balls to use big center forwards to score on headers.

    We are not like Chelsea/ManCity, we need to give these young playes time to flourish. So LFC fans need to have patience. But I do believe he will eventually get them corrected and help LFC get back to the glory days.

    REDS fan for life.............

    April 16, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Reply
  96. Ryan

    "Has he really spent time on the training ground working on the strike partnership between Suarez and Carroll? I doubt it"

    Seriously? What makes you believe that training time hasn't been devoted to building this partnership?

    You also take a shot at the cup runs by claiming that the league cup was simply a win against a second-tier side. What about the Man City game in the lead up to the Carling final? Or the Man U game in the lead up to the FA cup final? Let's not pretend Liverpool's cup runs have only included games against lower tier teams.

    April 16, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Reply
  97. Francis

    It is comical to note that the LFC fans on this forum are under the belief that their club is doing well under Kenny Daglish. LFC have won Carling cup and now in FA Cup final. But they are disastrous in the league. Infact they should be lucky that they are not in the relegation zone. If they continue with KD then end season 2012-2013 they will be in Championships. KD has to be sacked for buying flops like Caroll, Downing, Henderson and Adams. He praises Suarez who is an absolute disgrace to English football. One thing he is good at is criticizing referees, fellow managers and opposition players instead of criticizing his bunch of flops. If KD continues further then only God can save LFC from demotion. American owners will not and should not tolerate KD anymore.

    April 17, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Reply
  98. LFCfan

    This guy Pedro Pinto writes less nonsense than what seems to come out of his articles at first sight. He said Man City does not have the team to win the EPL at a time when it had something close to 5 points' advance over Yoonietid and I was like 'HAHAHA' at him.
    I think he's right about Dalglish stepping down (I don't like the word 'sacked' when a legend is concerned)...
    Thanks for the trophies Kenny; now sit at the Kop end and watch Liverpool win as a supporter.

    April 18, 2012 at 11:40 am | Reply
  99. gwgw

    Typical LFC fans – I bet you would never give Roy a chance. I think FSG should stop being a coward and just sack him, say that you guys never gave Roy a chance and why should you give Kenny? therefore its even!

    April 20, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Reply
  100. markdbiram2011

    for me the dalglish appointment was based on sentimentality rather than logic. historically the bloke is hardly a brian clough or alex ferguson. he inherited a winning dynasty at lfc in the eighties, and had the considerable backing of jack walker at blackburn. when faced with a difficult job like newcastle, the true dalglish as a manager shone through. marvellous player of course, but a dubious quality manager even at his peak, which has long gone. treatment of roy hodgson was a disgrace too. they had it in for him before his first match. football is a game of emotions though, for that reason, he'll always have no shortage of sympathisers. maybe if i was an lfc fan i'd defend him. i'm not though, i'm a detached outsider. article mostly correct!

    April 22, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Reply
  101. aussiesforisrael

    Another imbecyllic comment from an another imbecyllic Journo!
    "Hey – why don't I stir up some Sh#t amongst the fans....."
    Look at the budget of Manure and City – Money buys superstars...
    LFC Will be Back under King Kenny – Respected by the fans and players and certainly by the likes of Sir Alex and other great managers!
    Like most of the Born and Bred fans here, we don't "shaft" our own with one poor season.
    There is FAR MORE in Integrity, Passion and Commitment amongst the Fans of LFC than Any other Club on Planet Earth!
    God Bless Our Mighty Club and Our Fantastic Manager!

    April 23, 2012 at 1:46 am | Reply
  102. IVOR WILSON

    being a rugby AND FOOTBALL supporter i can see liverpool f.c. holding on to kenny as the games i've seen the ball will not go into the net despite numerousCHANCES.i can see a team on a hiding from them soon and fortunes will change for liverpool and as the country song goes

    STAND BY YOUR MAN

    April 23, 2012 at 10:03 am | Reply
  103. Serpent on the Rose

    Pedro Pinto how dare you even suggest that we part ways with Kenny?
    It is in tough times that we REAL Liverpool supporters stand together and you my friend are surely NOT a Liverpool supporter.....

    We've been down before, we've been banned and removed from both Champions and Premiere League before but we will always rise amidst any given challenge... and remember our motto....

    YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE...

    April 24, 2012 at 10:53 pm | Reply
  104. Henry Lee

    I am a Liverpool fan but I agree with Pedro. Our heads are above our hearts for one reason so that we are not caught up with our passion or compassion. KD was a fantastic manager but that was 20 years ago. Coaching of a modern football club have evolved long ago. It is because of our love for the club that we sacked Benetiz and Roy Hodgson, because we do not want the club to sink too low. If we are too attached to KD just because he was our former hero, we will sink like the crew with Titanic. I love my Liverpool but I hate to see it go so low. Good managers do not need more time. They must be able to take stock and realise their mistakes and change. KD cannot stick with Carroll just because he bought him. Scoring one goal does not make him a potential. Wake up Kenny, save the club.

    April 25, 2012 at 10:12 am | Reply
  105. Devoran

    That's all the nonsense you hear today from blog writers, and sadly it's this kind of writing that gets the readership and thus writers just continue fanning the flames.

    Liverpool should sack KD as much as Man Utd should've sacked Fergie 30 years ago....

    Only useless managers need to wait to be sacked for the dough. This man Kenny Dalglish loves the club with his heart, and if he sees and knows another person out there deserves the hot seat he'll leave willingly.

    April 26, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Reply
  106. jasperA

    I agree with Pedro on this.Coaching is like marketing is you can't deliver just go go. KD has failed and he has no new ideas.
    If he loves the Club let him resign before he is shown the exit.
    Pedro that was a good analysis.

    April 27, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Reply
  107. jose

    pedro pinto has no clue what he is talking about.

    the fans who are calling for dalglish to step aside don't know anything and it's pointless arguing with them.

    have patience...give him one more season at the minimum and then reevaluate.

    first full season back and two finals.the man wins trophies...its just what he does

    April 28, 2012 at 9:19 am | Reply
  108. Noah

    Oh, my gosh! Did they actually publish that story? First of all Liverpool use a 4-4-2 formation which sometimes turns to 4-5-1 with a lone Caroll up-front. Secondly, the racism row is down to how Comolli tried to spin a yarn. Read the report for yourself. A French-Spanish expert. Thirdly, the most loyal Liverpool fan—me—still thinks Rome was not built in a day. There are positive signs including today's demolition of Norwich. Champions league players are not always the best signings for success. For example Fergueson just signed Luke Young and Phil Jones out of nowhere. In fact Dalglish wanted the same players but they weren't available. Also, Tello was thrown into the fray by Guardiola and yet he had no prior Champions League experience. When things start going right, and I'm hoping next season, you'll regret you ever wrote this article. In building his current United dynasty, Fergie took 5 seasons or so. re-building Liverpool from the ashes and the court cases won't take that long but it takes considerable time for sure. In the meantime, we will have more trophies this season than at least one of the Manchester clubs. Also fighting for Fourth place is an embarrassment for Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. They should be right up there in first. In the meantime we have been spared the agony of routine 4-0 scorelines currently on offer for English clubs in the Champions League until the house is in order—and it will be—in time. For start look at our results against the bigger teams. True we faced inferior opposition in the Carling cup final—but where were the bigger teams? Man City failed to make it because we beat them. Does Kenny shout from the touchline? News to me. He enjoys the goals just as anybody else.

    April 28, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Reply
  109. Bernard B

    While I agree this has been a bad year league wise Kenny needs to and should stay he will get it right. Look at his managerial history.

    May 1, 2012 at 2:19 am | Reply
  110. Hase

    I am a Liverpool fan and have been for my entire life.

    The Liverpool fan here claiming that Kenny will lead us to glory is clearly delusional. I said that when he was appointed that he should only be a caretaker.

    Kenny is a legend however that was due to his achievements in the past. I fear that that legend may be somewhat affected by his management of the team which is clearly not suited to the 21st century. Why not ask Rush to come out of retirement and play up front for us as well? Maybe get Phil Thompson to add a bit of steel to our back line?

    I love my team and part of loving your team should be putting emotions aside and thinking with cold rationality about what's best for it. An awful lot of ours fans don't do that and given their influence over club's direction in the past, it is easy to see why we are where we are.

    May 1, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Reply
  111. Ace777

    King Kenny needs time, if we are still in this same boat in 1-2 years then yes, he needs to go, BUT new players to time to mature and gel and what a difference it would make if next season Andy Carrol scores 25+ goals and the teams 'expensive' purchases start to provide....then everyone would say...'oh yes..Kenny knew exactly what he was doing!'
    3 year contract is a 3 year contract! Why sack him after 1?.....otherwise what's the point of contracts?

    May 1, 2012 at 6:28 pm | Reply
  112. Magwister

    Bad analysis...we don't play a 4-3-3, we play an old school 4-4-2....have you watched any of our games? I would love a 4-3-3 since it would probably mean more of Bellamy, Suarez, Kuyt and Maxi and less of the crap that is Carroll, Henderson and co. Midfield should be Gerrard, Lucas (when fit, Spearing otherwise) and Maxi (very attacking but drop Maxi for a more defensive mid if needed in some games).

    Anyway, we have played some exceptional football this year and dominated teams like Arsenal and co (and sometimes still lost). We have also played some absolute rubbish as well and this tends to be when Carroll and co are playing. We miss Lucas big time.

    If we win the FA Cup it will have to be considered a great year and only Man City (will hopefully win the PL) and Chelsea (if win CL final) will have had a better season. They won't sack KK cos he only won 2 cups instead of three.

    May 1, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Reply
  113. chaquile jones

    I totally agree, it’s time for daglish to go he’s spent over a £110m on average players and it’s got us nowhere were actually in danger from finishing in a worse league position than we did last year.

    the signings were all wrong from the start too many midfielders and not enough options upfront he has shown he doesn’t know how to manage the transfer funds and clearly can’t see the players we desperately need

    if this had been another manager we'd all would of wanted him to get the sack, so I see no different with Kenny daglish we all love him for what he did for us in the past but this the present now and he just hasn’t stepped up the expectations

    May 2, 2012 at 7:36 pm | Reply
  114. Kleckin

    Common sense, gentlemen please!
    Let's not lose our heads just because we will not qualify for the next Champions, or because our position on the table this year will undoubtedly be something to want to forget about.
    Let's put our hearts in our collective pockets for a moment and look at some facts. Not sentiments, just plain facts.
    Liverpool has spent a fortune on some players (we all know the names) who up until now have simply not delivered as expected, or suggested by their large price tags. That's undisputed .
    But, have we given them enough time to gel with one another and the rest of the team in a way that can produce consistent results both at home and away? How long does that process take exactly?
    Can we say, hand on heart, that a player of Carrol's quality and track record as displayed during his time at Newcastle, is all washed up? Or, that he's not right for the team for some reason?
    Would it not be more prudent, given the size of the investment, to wait a little more before we sell him or loan him away?
    Same goes for Dalglish.
    Again, let's look at facts (and by that I don't mean statistics). Has Liverpool shown flashes of genius and exciting potential in their games this year? I believe the answer to that question is a sound 'yes'. Surely this is a sign of a work in progress.
    Has Liverpool been incredibly unlucky at times this season? Another rotound 'yes' to that one.
    Some say that luck shouldn't have anything to do with football, but unfortunately it does. As do cycles. All those of us who had the priviledge of playing the game know that for a fact.
    Suarez et al hit the post countless times this season and had a miriad opportunities go to waste that were easier to score than to miss even for an amateur player. The ball simply would not go in.
    A couple of days ago however, it seemed that everything Suarez touched ended up in the back of the net, including a 45m beauty that will live long in the memory of all fans. Interesting isn't it?
    Whilst we are pondering that, let's consider also what would have happened if Liverpool's best player and highest scorer had participated in the eight matches that due to a heavy suspension he had to miss out on. Would the team be higher up the table right now? Top four perhaps?
    No one can know for sure the answer to that question, but judging from past recent performances, I dare say, Liverpool would have fared better with him than without him disputing those 24 points that were up for grabs.
    Hence, was it not unlucky for Liverpool to lose their match winning player for eight games? We may argue about the fairness of the decision to suspend the striker until the cows come home, but I think we'd all agree, that from Liverpool's perspective, the severity of the ruling and the implications for the team in the 8 matches that followed, was a rather 'unlucky' (and unlikely) event to say the least. No coach can predict or prepare for something like that. It'd be akin to asking a chessmaster to compete in a tournament without his queen and still be expected to win the title. Suarez is that crucial to LFC.
    Cycles do exist in football; both short term and long term. Before we go sharpening the knife and asking for blood, consider the above.
    Would it not be more prudent (and infinitely less expensive) for the club to keep working with the talent they have, and give their coach and their boys the opportunity to gel and show their true worth?
    I'm not advocating inaction, however. As much as I believe luck to have been a factor in Liverpool's less than stellar performance in the Premier League this year, the club cannot afford remain passive and hope that luck will turn.
    What the team needs is an insurance policy in the form of a new stiker or two. Most fans would agree with that, and I believe new purchases this summer will be inevitable.This time however, KD can't afford to miss. His selections must deliver, and deliver almost immediately.
    The challenge for KD will be to minimise the risk in a sport where even recent past performance is often not a good predictor of future success (Carrol et al come to mind). The key for Dalglish, I believe, will be to keep his bets small. Forget paying 20 or 30 million pounds for any one player. Minimise the risk of failure by making more (cheaper) bets rather than one or two very large ones. I believe KD understands this and will act accordingly.
    The other key that I believe KD will need to unlock the path to success next year and beyond, is to start thinking a little like Guardiola, and come to the realisation that the fastest route to success lies in building his forward line around his best and most consistent player. Any future purchases must therefore be made with Suarez firmly in mind.
    Ideally, Liverpool should seek someone who's used to playing under pressure, won't cost an arm and a leg to purchase, has English football experience, and if it were at all possible, someone who has something to prove right now, and is prepared to give his all on the pitch in order to prove it. Does anyone like that come to mind?
    Fortunately for Liverpool, there is a striker right now who meets all the requirements stated above and more.
    This player is virtually guaranteed to gel with Suarez from the outset. The reason for that guarantee is simply that this player has shown this to be the case many, many times before. He has played alongside 'the Pistolero' enough times to know his game intimately. Their connection has often been described by the Uruguayan press as 'bordering on the telepathic'.
    Best of all, right now, LFC could get all that and more for less than 5 million pounds! Know who i'm talking about now?
    Of course you do...Diego Forlan.
    Voted best player at the 2010 South Africa World Cup, alma matter of the Uruguayan national team, and scorer of two goals in the final of the recently disputed 2011 Copa America against Paraguay, Forlan has the pedigree and experience to fill the position. And right now he can be gotten for a bargain!
    Before some of you go sharpening the knife again and start pointing out that he's not been delivering at Inter this season, or even that he's too old (he's only 32), and the club would be better off signing up younger talent, consider this:
    Inter has been a club in complete disarray this year. None of their big name stars have really lived up to their reputation. They languished just above the middle of the table most of the season and will finish well outside the first four in Serie A. Things got so bad, that their coach Ranieri was recently fired and replaced with a virtual unknown til the end of the season, while they shop around for a more permanent option.
    Forlan was injured for much of the season and right now he's a striker with a chip on his shoulder and a whole lot to prove because when he's not been injured, he's been played out of position whilst trying to regain form, and then criticised for not playing at his best.
    Incredibly, Inter's new coach has him currently warming up the bench!
    I believe this represents a great opportunity for LFC to get a player of great calibre at a bargain price. For those who doubt the Forlan-Suarez chemistry, I invite you to watch any of the Uruguayan team's games either at the last World Cup or Copa America. Since then, they haven't lost in the last 14 games and are currently rated No 3 in the Fifa World Rankings. Not at all bad for a country with only three and a half million people!
    Of course, Cavani (the third point of the trident in the Uruguayan forward line) would be a sensational addition as well, as he also knows Suarez's game intimately. But not counting penalties, no one has scored more goals this season in Serie A than Cavani, and several clubs who s can afford his hefty price tag (and have qualified for the Champions League next year) have already raised their hands to express their interest in the player.
    More realistically, I believe Texeira would be a sound and far more moderate option in terms of price. But there are several other young players that KD could consider as long as he remembers to build his forward line around his one undisputed and most consistent star: Mr Luis Suarez.
    Given all the issues raised above, I believe it's time to put the chopping knives away (at least for the moment) and give KD enough time as well as enough rope to either triumph or hang himself with the choices that he's about to make in the months ahead. Surely a man of his calibre, pedigre, and undisputed love and commitment for his club deserves at least that much.

    May 4, 2012 at 12:38 am | Reply
  115. Peter

    If 'King Kenny'did have LFC interests at heart he would do the honourable thing and resign. A disastorous season – poor signings at hugely inflated prices, poor decisions ( Suarez incident), laughable press confrences and excuses.

    Maybe he thought that he could continue as he had done 20 years ago.

    Now if he does love the Club, resign and let a professional take charge.

    May 8, 2012 at 10:34 am | Reply
  116. Dave M

    Kenny must stay.
    PS. I'm a Man. United fan

    May 13, 2012 at 11:55 pm | Reply
  117. Pawnesh

    You have chosen an implssiboe idea and made it possible for the common person to see and believe. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to much more from your mind and hand.

    July 2, 2012 at 3:46 am | Reply

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